Exercise may or may not help you lose weight and keep it off – here's evidence for both sides of the debate

The best way to lose it is to not eat it in the first place, is what my mama used to say. Which is not possible so limit yourself to three balanced homemade meals a day, and exercise.

Salt holds water so increases your weight and when your body releases the water your weight appears to drop, so stay from the ghastly stuff as it might be fooling yourself you are healthy.

Anything more-ish in high amounts such as eggs and cheese is the royal road to ruin so handle with care, say one portion a day.

So is frequently eating out at restaurants which are frankly a rip off and they can put anything they want into the food. Which they probably do to boost its flavour (think salt, fat, msg...;^) and keep you coming back for more and telling everyone about how delicious they are.

Another groundbreaking research paper.

Diet. Exercise. Sleep well, drink plenty of water.

There solved it for you.

However, as others have said, don’t fool yourself into thinking you can “outrun a bad diet” by simply exercising more. There is a diminishing marginal return to exercise – you eventually take less weight off for the additional exercise you put in.

This is a very important point. Exercise produce a lot of benefits for the overall health of the person doing it, but as a tool for weight loss its value is unfortunately limited by the metabolic response of the body that ends up compensating in order to keep the weight.

This does not mean that exercising is useless, even for the single purpose of losing weight is a great tool, people just need to be aware that there is a point where it stops being beneficial and it may even become counterproductive by making much more difficult to keep a proper diet and an active metabolism.

In the end this is great news, that means that people that have failed to lose weight will no longer have to do excessive hours of exercise and impossible strict diet to be successful, instead vigilance of metabolic rates can let health professionals design a personalized regime, where a moderate amount of exercise and an easier to follow reduction of the calories ingested can result in an efficient way to lose weight.

Another groundbreaking research paper.

Diet. Exercise. Sleep well, drink plenty of water.

There solved it for you.

The whole point of the article is that this oversimplification is wrong. Exercise can make changes that reduce the efficacy of doing it and following a diet. A "solution" that makes it more difficult to deal with the problem is not useful at all, if it were that simple no country would have obesity as a public health problem.

Yep. Just have a sedentary lifestyle and keep eating those pizza and chips on your couch while watching CNN. You'll lose weight.

Cut down/out sugar and reduce insulin resistance.

Exercise regularly at least three times a week.

Don't overeat.

Skip one meal a day thus fast for about eighteen hours daily.

Yep. Just have a sedentary lifestyle and keep eating those pizza and chips on your couch while watching CNN. You'll lose weight.

...if you get one of those new drugs (ozempic, wegova...).

Keep in mind this is an article from The Conversation.

Also bearing in mind that weight gain isn't always necessarily a bad thing. People who lift weights regularly do gain weight as muscle tissue is heavier than fat. Its not always about the weighing scale.

Regardless of weight, exercise is great for overall health.

Cut down/out sugar and reduce insulin resistance.

Exercise regularly at least three times a week.

Don't overeat.

Skip one meal a day thus fast for about eighteen hours daily.

Exactly!

Carbs are the main culprit, especially refined carbs.

For years, I've been following a time restricted, relatively low carb diet, and I've been feeling great.

This past week and a half, I lost 3 kg by cutting out all alcohol and further reducing carbs.

I lose almost 30 pound each summer, have problem keeping my pants up,go to put a new loop in my belt, people can lose an extreme amount of weight,by just taking a brisk walk

From my cancer op, I put on 15 kg. No increase in food no decrease in exercise. Gym twice a week for 3 hours and yard work. Down 4 kg, another 11 kg to go. Most days I eat about 1500 Kcal. The average Japanese diet is 2700.

This past week and a half, I lost 3 kg by cutting out all alcohol and further reducing carbs.

You're going to have to change your username then! How about Raw Water?

Seriously though If I would cut out all alcohol, I'd probably be ripped. Alcohol does a lot of damage I'm sorry to say

I have not drunk any beer this year. No great weight decrease. Controlling blood sugar levels.

..if you get one of those new drugs (ozempic, wegova...).

The whole point of those new drugs is that they make easier for people to abandon these unhealthy lifestyles, they don't magically make people lose weight while doing everything that made them overweight in the first place.

Keep in mind this is an article from The Conversation.

That still means a much higher validity of the appeal to authority than nameless people saying they are wrong and using bad misunderstandings as arguments.

Those who exercised at the lower dose for general health, meaning they burned an extra 800 to 1,000 calories per week, saw no change in their metabolic rate. But those who exercised at the higher dose to lose weight or maintain weight loss, meaning they burned an extra 2,000 to 2,500 calories per week, had a decrease in their metabolic rate by the study’s end.

So a moderate level of exercise is more effective for weight loss and maintenance than an extreme amount of exercise. Even less excuse for the overweight and obese then.

It's also explained by the simple fact that smaller bodies (resulting from more exercise) burn fewer calories.

Health is wealth. Twice a day yoga, meditation, and two or three millet meals. Sorghum, pearl millet, and finger millet preparations are known to add life to one's life span.

Twice a day yoga, meditation, and two or three millet meals. Sorghum, pearl millet, and finger millet preparations are known to add life to one's life span.

If all that's necessary for a long life, I'd prefer a short one.

I’m sticking with the ghastly horror of American food being a major contributor to the ghastly horror of American obesity.

When Frosted Mini-Wheats are considered a diet food promoted by the government in concert with the food lobby, you know you’re in trouble.

If you decide to reduce carbs by eating some luncheon meat instead of a bag of potato chips, cookies, donuts, a 2,000 calorie burger (buy one, get a second for $1), you read the label on ham, turkey, chicken from the supermarket and find they are all laden with sugar.

It’s simple business. Make people fat, because fat people buy more food.

When Frosted Mini-Wheats are considered a diet food promoted by the government in concert with the food lobby, you know you’re in trouble.

no doubt. Did you catch Jamie Oliver’s shows about trying to change the lunch food in US schools? It’s the corps, school boards and the government. It was a real shocker to me when the frozen pizza industry lobbied the US Congress to declare “Pizza is a vegetable” because of the tomato sauce.

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It was a real shocker to me when the frozen pizza industry lobbied the US Congress to declare “Pizza is a vegetable” because of the tomato sauce.

You fell for the myth, this is not what happened.

In the USDA "vegetables yield table", a tablespoon of canned tomato paste counts as "one serving of vegetables". Which essentially means that, as far as the USDA and school lunches are concerned, a slice of pizza has the mandatory vegetable side dish built in. Congress was also not lobbied to introduce this rule, they tried to remove it but -- and that is the kernel of truth -- failed because of the lobby groups. But at no point did they declare pizza a vegetable.

Tomato paste? One teaspoon?

https://foodbuyingguide.fns.usda.gov/files/Reports/USDA_FBG_Section2_VegetablesYieldTable.pdf , page 40: One tablespoon equals 1/4 cup equals one "serving size per meal contribution" of vegetables.

Congress wasn’t lobbied?

It was, but not to declare pizza a vegetable as the myth goes. It was successfully lobbied to not remove that assessment that 1/4 cup of tomato paste equals a serving of vegetables.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html

IF your have insulin resistance, fatty liver or metabolic syndrome and you eat a lot of grains and carbs your going to gain weight no matter how much you exercise a day. You can not burn stored fat under the presence of insulin as it is a fat storing hormone and if your insulin resistant that makes it even worse because insulin cannot shuttle the nutrients to the cells and ends up being stored as fat. First stop eating all process food and sugars and get rid of all hydrogenated oils and vegetable oils. Never ever eat fast food and you will see a difference in your metabolism as you eat a proper human diet. The foods on the grocery shelfs are made to fatten us.

It’s not just about exercising now and then and going on a crash diet, it’s about a total lifestyle change.

You’re body needs to love every day, 10000 steps a day minimum, workout aerobic and cardio almost daily when time permits, even 10 minutes of your time is worth it. Of course if you are very elderly or been sick you have to have lower targets, but every little helps.

Many foods make you feel full and have slow burning carbs, like lentils, eggs and oats. Cut down the processed foods and especially the chocolates and sweets, these used to be a treat eaten occasionally not daily a few times by some.

You fell for the myth, this is not what happened.

In the USDA "vegetables yield table", a tablespoon of canned tomato paste counts as "one serving of vegetables". Which essentially means that, as far as the USDA and school lunches are concerned, a slice of pizza has the mandatory vegetable side dish built in. Congress was also not lobbied to introduce this rule, they tried to remove it but -- and that is the kernel of truth -- failed because of the lobby groups. But at no point did they declare pizza a vegetable.

You have so many errors in your retort, and I don’t mean grammar. Tomato paste? One teaspoon? Congress wasn’t lobbied? These are all wrong. The USDA was behind the removing of pizza from subsidized school lunches.

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It was, but not to declare pizza a vegetable as the myth goes. It was successfully lobbied to not remove that assessment that 1/4 cup of tomato paste equals a serving of vegetables.

Ha

whatever

i figured you were reading the Washington Post damage control piece.

Tomato is a fruit. The sugar in the sauce could make it a dessert. Why defend the illogical?

Exercise will make you healthier. But if you eat crap all day, exercise isn't going to offset that. Slenderness is 80% diet, and 20% exercise. Want to lose weight? You're going to have a hard time exercising it off.

It would behoove you to clean up your diet Doughboy.

Abs are made in the kitchen.

No need to take unnecessary risks by injecting oneself with these drugs when eating properly and exercising is more effective, and safer.

That is the thing, for many patients "eating properly and exercising" is not an effective solution (as even the title of the article says) so drugs that very importantly increase the success rate of making these lifestyle changes actually decrease the risk for the patients. That means that for those patients drugs are much more effective and safer than not using them.

That is the thing, for many patients "eating properly and exercising" is not an effective solution (as even the title of the article says) so drugs that very importantly increase the success rate of making these lifestyle changes actually decrease the risk for the patients. 

The thing is that in many cases it is not really eating properly. Eating "properly" is often unhealthy, just as "misinformation" is often truth.

Drugs, especially new ones, often have important side effects, known and unknown (to the public) ones.

The thing is that in many cases it is not really eating properly. Eating "properly" is often unhealthy, just as "misinformation" is often truth.

That do not contradict the argument, for it to disprove the value of the pharmaceutical help you need to prove every single patient that failed was because of "not eating properly", with many in the professional care of specialists on the endocrine system and nutrition that is not believable.

Drugs, especially new ones, often have important side effects, known and unknown (to the public) ones.

When those risks are a tiny fraction of the risks that come from failing to treat the obesity and the drugs actually improve those odds importantly then it is completely justified to use those drugs, the same as with every other medical intervention, none of which is free of risks.

That is the thing, for many patients "eating properly and exercising" is not an effective solution

It is an effective and medically proven solution.

The article makes a very good description of the process why exercise so frequently fails to help people lose weight even when coupled with other lifestyle changes, that is what has caused the current epidemics of obesity in many countries, new drugs are now available that can increase the effectiveness of these changes and make it much less likely to fail, proven by scientific data that shows a huge reduction of risks for the health.

This article makes sense----if you do not exercise and if you overeat, then the risk of becoming overweight is high.

As medical experts agree, medications are a last resort, and are the unhealthier option.

It has already been seen how these weight loss drugs can harm the body.

Abs are made in the kitchen.

Right. No medication produces the same results of dieting.

The article explicitly contradict the claim that exercise will lead to efficient weight loss, metabolic changes can make the treatment less and less effective, as the expert says "don’t fool yourself into thinking you can “outrun a bad diet” by simply exercising more. " In this aspect other forms of treatment like newly developed drugs can help where exercise is not enough, drugs that have been approved for use in patients precisely because they are a much better option than letting the patients fail in their diet thanks to mechanisms like the one described in this article. If drugs were the unhealthier option according to the doctors this approval would be impossible.

 If drugs were the unhealthier option according to the doctors this approval would be impossible.

That is really funny! You're joking, right?

Let's see you point out where any doctor is approving drugs in this article.

The drugs that help being successful in changing lifestyles to lose weight have been approved for use in the population in the US, if you ignored that the problem is thinking the article would have to include every information related to the topic.

Another of your attempts to divert the issue to something completely different.

The article is about how lifestyle changes become more difficult and less successful for the purpose of losing weight, this is precisely what the new drugs help with.

That is really funny! You're joking, right?

Not at all, for rational people that do not consider believable global conspiracies where all doctors are trying to kill their patients for profit this scenario is obviously false. There is no drug that is worse than not treating a patient but sill allowed to be put in the market.

Right. No medication produces the same results of dieting.

This may explain your mistake, the drugs being used for control of weight do not replace diet, exercise or other life-style changes, they facilitate the adherence of the patients to those measures. The patients under pharmacological treatment are simply much more successful in following the diet and excercise.