Fukushima plant official says coming release of treated water a milestone for decommissioning

So those water will be release won't they, when the exact date for that?

Or we need just to wait Hongkong to release their result of radioactive spike reading on imported food from Fukushima?

Another article that doesn't tell us when this is supposed to start happening.

A top official in charge of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says an upcoming release of treated radioactive water into the sea more than 12 years after the meltdown disaster marks “a milestone,” but it's still an initial step of the daunting task of the decades-long decommissioning process that still remain.

A milestone? More like a millstone!

crap.its a crap.

You will be notified a month after it starts.

Another article that doesn't tell us when this is supposed to start happening.

Definitely a milestone to destroying World ecosystem by releasing tons of radioactive water hour after hour, day after day until whole Pacific is poisoned.

How long the realese will take 30,50, 100 years? They omit this information of course.

"If you describe (the water release) in one word, we can say ‘no worries.’”

Sheesh. Can't even get that right.

TEPCO and government officials say tritium is the only radionuclide inseparable from water

Do they really believe that?

The tritium industrial filters are unkown to TEPCO?

It doesn't look that they know what they are doing.

Japan's Govt and TEPCO repeating falsehood and deception to defend nuclear vested interest for decades.

Japan has enough land for on shore storaging contaminated water but they just chose cheapest way.

Leave it to TEPCO to claim that it's some kind of success story and call it a milestone. They should be contrite, humble, and apologize for having to resort to this action not pump up their chests and declare it a success. Straight out of Orwell's 1984.

Another main task for TEPCO is to combat reputational damage from the water release, he said.

Yeah, you think?

“It is difficult, but we hope to make it as easy to understand as possible,” he said. "If you describe (the water release) in one word, we can say ‘no worries.’”

That is a nice dumb down wording package. (no worries). What he is saying is. The science into this and explanation about water dumping as a whole. Is too difficult for the G.P. or people in the world watching this water being dumped. The Japanese G.P. and the global community will not be able to get our heads around this very serious environmental crime. And understand it. Its not the immediate impact scientists should be worried about it is the long term factor they should be extremely worried about and focused on. And as we all around the world become numb to the fact dumping this water into the ocean is the new longstanding norm.

Over time and oversight becomes lackadaisical or business' as usual. And it will. Which is common practice's in Japan. All the straight up and kibishi from the start goes away. Meanwhile 10, 20, 30, 100 years later when the focus is off. Let see the impact on the Oceans then. Lets see Millisieverts, count on the reactor and the Pacific ocean floor and the radioactive levels on the water being dumped at that point in time. This is not gasoline that seeped into the ground that will dissipate. Or an oil spill that can be cleaned up. This is flat nuclear waste. HAZORDOUS waste to all life and cells on this planet. That has an impact on our environment that can last centuries. Think about that.

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Humdinger Gobbledygook

   Today, after taking measures to minimize rainwater and groundwater seeping into the reactor buildings and establishing a stable water management systems,

> They can't even keep the water out after all this time since the disaster happened ?

> That's incompetent

You seem to have little civil, technical, or engineering understanding. In 2011, about 600 tons of underground water leaked into the reactor basements and mixed with the highly contaminated water used for cooling the reactors which also leaks into the basement.

TEPCO reduced the underground water to 100 tons per day.

The radiation levels in the basements are about 10 sieverts per hour. High enough to quickly kill a worker.

There are numerous problems TEPCO does not have the answer to and will continue for many decades.

Reading the many reports on the nuclear disaster will increase your understanding.

The wastewater problems raise some issues.

If the wastewater is safe then why does it need to be released into the ocean?

"There were instances when plant workers had no other choice but to dump it into the sea or temporarily put it inside a basement or temporary water tanks, Matsumoto recalled."

I wonder how much untreated water has been dumped in the sea already?

indigo

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I buy my salt from Ako on the Seto Inland Sea. Good stuff.

Truth here.

That is a nice dumb down wording package. (no worries). What he is saying is. The science into this and explanation about water dumping as a whole. Is too difficult for the G.P. or people in the world watching this water being dumped.

> Its not the immediate impact scientists should be worried about it is the long term factor they should be extremely worried about and focused on. And as we all around the world become numb to the fact dumping this water into the ocean is the new longstanding norm.

The tritium industrial filters are unkown to TEPCO?

They are not. They requested and got half a dozen answers about tritium filters from all around the world (including Canada, France, and even Russia when they were still on speaking terms)[1].

The unanimous answer was that while, yes, it is theoretically possible, it isn't feasible and has never been done at this scale[2]. Not only would you spend a few decades building CECE filters, which is completely out of the question, you'd also have to build a small power plant next to them to supply an estimated demand of 200 megawatts of power[3].

You can bring up "industrial tritium filters" as much as you like, fact remains that they only exist for PWR reactors (like CANDU) producing some 10 to 400 liters of waste water a day, but not for 400,000 liters a day like in Fukushima. But knowing your argumentative style I'm pretty sure no amount of actual reality will stop you from bringing them up over, and over, and over again.

[1] https://irid.or.jp/cw/public/

[2] https://irid.or.jp/cw/public/337.pdf

[3] https://irid.or.jp/cw/public/251.pdf

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Why? Sea salt does not, because it can not, contain tritium.

So those water will be release won't they, when the exact date for that?

Another article that doesn't tell us when this is supposed to start happening.

I believe it's up to the government to decide, not TEPCO, and they haven't decided yet.

Definitely a milestone to destroying World ecosystem by releasing tons of radioactive water hour after hour, day after day until whole Pacific is poisoned.

I take it you haven't read the IAEA's analysis? The idea of the whole Pacific being poisoned is simply nonsense.

It doesn't look that they know what they are doing.

I think TEPCO and the IAEA know better than anyone else on the planet what the situation is, and what is to be done.

Japan has enough land for on shore storaging contaminated water

Who would host this? Municipalities and private landowners aren't exactly crying out to handle water from Fukushima, even when it's treated to very safe levels via ALPS. And it wouldn't solve the problem of the constantly-increasing amounts of water: you'd need constantly-increasing onshore tanks and space for them.

They should be contrite, humble, and apologize for having to resort to this action

TEPCO has apologized many times, and continues to do so - as they well should, since they caused all this.

I support the release. It is commonly done at all nuclear plants.

I also support their agriculture. Fukushima peaches this year are better than last year.

Why does not Japan leave the nuclear poisonous water in storage where they are now ? WHY?

Stephen ChinToday 04:53 pm JST

Why does not Japan leave the nuclear poisonous water in storage where they are now ? WHY?

Because the amount of water is constantly increasing, and they're running out of space.

Per my above comment, other places are unlikely to store Fukushima water even if it's safe and verified independently by the IAEA, and it wouldn't solve the problem of the constant increase in any case, so releasing into the sea is the best option.

The water can be used for making concrete blocks for construction.

The water can be used for making concrete blocks for construction.

I know a Todai professor who told me that the radioactive waste is already being used for concrete and spread all over Japan.

RodneyToday 06:04 pm JST

I know a Todai professor who told me that the radioactive waste is already being used for concrete and spread all over Japan.

Please provide proof for this claim. Otherwise, there's no reason for anyone to believe it.

I know a Todai professor who told me that the radioactive waste is already being used for concrete and spread all over Japan.

My cousin has a friend that he just met, who's cleaning lady said that she heard that the world is ending on Tuesday. Blimey must be true. Better get my affairs in order.

isabelleToday  02:57 pm JST

TEPCO has apologized many times, and continues to do so - as they well should, since they caused all this.

Have they? And here I am thinking they apologized by increasing rates for consumers essentially forcing them to pay for TEPCO's mistakes and incompetence.

The water can be used for making concrete blocks for construction.

It seems the idea has been proposed and rejected. The article below is from someone who proposed the idea. Note that, as stated at the foot of the article, it is the view of an individual and not an organization.

https://nonproliferation.org/concrete-alternative-a-better-solution-for-fukushimas-contaminated-water-than-ocean-dumping/

albaleo

The water can be used for making concrete blocks for construction.

It seems the idea has been proposed and rejected. The article below is from someone who proposed the idea. Note that, as stated at the foot of the article, it is the view of an individual and not an organization.

If the wastewater is safe, claimed by TEPCO and the IAEA then why does it have to be released into the ocean?

MilesTegToday 07:20 pm JST

Have they? And here I am thinking they apologized by increasing rates for consumers essentially forcing them to pay for TEPCO's mistakes and incompetence.

Yes, apologies are very often in their press releases, interviews, and company materials. You can take a look through here, for instance (or anywhere on their website, etc.):

https://www4.tepco.co.jp/library/movie/index-j.html

The guy apologizes right at the start of this one, from just yesterday:

https://www4.tepco.co.jp/library/movie/detail-j.html?catid=61697&video_uuid=15030

I don't know how the rate system works, but yes the public definitely is paying for part of the decommissioning/compensation, and yes - it's clearly TEPCO's mistakes that caused this. That said, they do still regularly apologize, for what that's worth.

If the wastewater is safe, claimed by TEPCO and the IAEA then why does it have to be released into the ocean?

I think one reason is that the wastewater is mainly sea water anyway - what else could be done with it? Another may be that there is a degree of uncertainty of the risk of tritium, and it seems safer to put it in the sea where it will be diluted substantially more than now.

Whatever, I can't think of a better solution. Can you?

The salt is removed from the wastewater.

The salt is removed from the wastewater.

Thank you - I didn't know that. But I understand it is to be diluted with seawater before being put into the sea.

Why not throwing it to the japanese lakes. Or water utilities.

I promise no country will complain if you do that.

Japanese peasants won't complain either.

albaleo

diagram of wastewater cleaning system.

https://www.tepco.co.jp/en/decommision/planaction/alps/index-e.html

Humdinger GobbledygookJuly 29 10:34 am JST

Today, after taking measures to minimize rainwater and groundwater seeping into the reactor buildings and establishing a stable water management systems,

They can't even keep the water out after all this time since the disaster happened ?

That's incompetent

Perhaps you would like to go and seal the reactor yourself. Unfortunately you wouldn't last long enough to accomplish the job and they'd have to find replacements.