G20 energy ministers fail to agree on fossil fuels roadmap

Gee that’s a surprise…

They insist that any transition needs huge capital and new technology, while giving up on polluting fuels without affordable alternatives will condemn their huge populations to poverty.

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If a country like Japan cannot give energy self sufficiency and determination to its own people then what chance India where solar energy is more abundant?

They fail on everything, climate change still ongoing right now. Extreme heat, more heavy rain, all they do just talking.

No surprise that the global petrochemical masters are doing what they can to maintain their wealth and power. And their supporters cheer them on, while the planet bakes and floods, and increasing pollution levels continue to sicken millions.

more jet-setting junkets for the political class (and meeja and hangers-on)..... and more hot air. political theatre is alive and well and living.... in luxury.

@diag ore jet-setting junkets for the political class

Typical response from the defenders of the global petrochemical establishment and from supporters of authoritarian nations, it's not the petrochemical industry and their puppet states that are responsible for man-made climate change, instead it's those that want to limit the damages done by the petrochemical industries and develop alternatives to burning ever-increasing amounts of fossil fuels.

The dirty fuel 

No it's not. Is this an opinion piece or a news article?

Zotoro, one in the same anymore.

In my country we have the saying ‘they all started out a tiger, but only ended up a bedside rug’.

Ed King from the climate-oriented communications firm GSCC blamed Russia and Saudi Arabia for a lack of progress at the meeting.

What exactly are Russia and Saudi Arabia's incentives? Other than oil, I don't know what they own.

Quote: Humankind cannot afford to delay.

Well maybe humankind's governments should have started building wind and solar farms a few decades earlier, rather than occupying their time flushing public money into the pockets of their mates. Apparently it was OK to spend zillions on Covid, delaying our response to climate change, but not on wind, solar, new reservoirs and structural resilience.

And it seems it is still more important to set up trade and movement blocks for political reasons than to act in concert to save humanity from climate change.

quote: giving up on polluting fuels without affordable alternatives will condemn their huge populations to poverty.

Not just in developing countries. When the lights go out, the economy fractures, the bills go up and stuff becomes scarce, G7 governments will fall like dominoes. Those low emission zones in the UK are already electoral poison (for Labour), setting a worried Labour leader against London's Labour mayor. Popular opposition is springing up all over the place to the 'war on motorists', because most people travel by car.

The UK government is spending money on what they call 'active travel' (walking and cycling), but it simply isn't an option for many people in many scenarios (including extreme weather). And cutting UK rail travel with strikes and reduced services isn't helping. If governments want to transition, they will have to increase rail travel whilst building and subsidising EVs. If they don't want to bring in the workers or import the raw materials, then they will be actively travelling out of government soon.

NOT SURPRISED AT ALL, until we the people decide to take matters into our own hands nothing will change.

We can't rely on governments to solve the climate change disasters we are living in as they are the one who put us in this situation to start with,

we the people must get involved and active by boycotting companies and businesses that are polluting our air and waters.

Ironic that they used fossil fuels to get to a meeting talking about how to stop using fossil fuels. One hint - zoom.

There just isn’t the incentive for countries such as Australia to cap fossil fuels as the mineral extraction in that country makes a lot of people wealthy

Member state members and energy sustainability?

After gold mining, coal is the second biggest cause of mercury in the ocean. Of course its a "dirty fuel".

It's a beautiful world, our home, and we're screwing it up. It could be saved with very little hit on the average person's lifestyle, an insulated house or efficient transport actually improve your lifestyle, but vested interests make too much money from the way things are now. Humans have only achieved what has been achieved through imagination, but we are not allowed to imagine anything different to the neoliberal capitalism we have now.

In my country we have the saying ‘they all started out a tiger, but only ended up a bedside rug’.

Here in Japan we have a yojijukugo for that: 「龍頭蛇尾」

Our only help is technology