Man who says he made living by selling upskirt videos arrested

he earned around 150 million yen by selling the footage over a period of about 12 years.

150 million over 12 years, that 12.5 million every year or 1 million every months. That's more than how much average Japanese salary.

Every chikan has an excuse for the cops. Just get this guy away from other people.

he earned around 150 million yen by selling the footage over a period of about 12 years.

150 million over 12 years, that 12.5 million every year or 1 million every months. That's more than how much average Japanese salary.

I know! I was like what?? Didn't think that would earn a living

Mori took the temperature of his sex-starved compatriots and made a mint. This case is just a glimpse of the dark side of Japan's "successful" socio-economic model which is taking a toll on the mental health of its people.

I hope they are investigating the website that bought them. They are just as much to blame. Sadly, if it not a Japanese site there is very little they can do.

Anyone who even bothers to pay for his work is a fool, Porno is all out in the open on the internet so I can't see how he made any $$??

Lock Him Up

He allegedly violated a local anti-nuisance ordinance...

Time to update the language/laws. Couldn't it be treated similarly to revenge porn in the UK?

Classified as a sexual offence in the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015, revenge porn, also known as imaged based sexual abuse, is the act of sharing intimate pictures or videos of someone either on or offline without their consent...

150 million over 12 years, that 12.5 million every year or 1 million every months. That's more than how much average Japanese salary.

It's also well over 1 million yen per victim of his filming. This suggests he should just employ models and make consensual upskirt videos and then pass them off as real. Someone in the upskirting "industry" like will know what makes the real ones look real. Regardless of whether you approve or not (I wouldn't want my wife or daughters to do it), there are plenty of women stripping on OnlyFans etc. or making actual porn videos. That's who would be his models.

...he earned around 150 million yen by selling the footage over a period of about 12 years.

Hmm. Food for thought.

The Kocho sensei who was arrested last year for filming upskirt videos was probably making a career change - from being a Kocho sensei to upskirt film maker.

What is interesting about female underpants?

Twelve years until he got gotten? He skirted the law long enough.

And no, this does not happen on the same scale in other countries *except perhaps South Korea).

Oh look, a dig at South Korea.

Masaki Mori, 46, has admitted to the allegation, saying he "made a living off selling non-consensually filmed videos"

Well, he must be proud then.............

Do you think he will write a book?

he earned around 150 million yen by selling the footage over a period of about 12 years.

You gotta wonder how he got by for 12 years and only "slipped up" now. Maybe he stopped paying off the cops or authorities?

My wife and I found a camera pen on a local beach a few years ago. When I uploaded the contents to my laptop (in an effort to see if there was any owner info I could use to return it), we found hundreds of upskirt videos of women on buses, trains, stairs and convenience store dressing rooms. The perp was dumb enough to have his face and work name tag in some videos. We gave it to the police and never heard anything about it. No idea if he was arrested or not.

People out and about in public should have no expectation of privacy.

he earned around 150 million yen by selling the footage over a period of about 12 years.

150 million over 12 years, that 12.5 million every year or 1 million every months. That's more than how much average Japanese salary

Reflects how huge a business it is, and additionally explains why these crimes (rapes are also filmed) will continue...generation after generation of young Japanese men will continue to be socialized in such a manner along with the yellow fever foreigners.

This means of course that Japanese women will continue to be subject to porn-for-profit sex crimes.

RKLToday  04:45 pm JST

People out and about in public should have no expectation of privacy.

So you should expect that, regardless of your gender, if someone wants to film down your pants while you're in public, they are fully entitled to it as you should not expect "privacy"? What a silly comment to make. The things people will say in defense of such despicable behavior...

RKL

People out and about in public should have no expectation of privacy.

Nonsense. There are laws, ordinances, and local rules that protect some aspects of public privacy such as upskirt filming.

150 million over 12 years, that 12.5 million every year or 1 million every months. That's more than how much average Japanese salary.

How did he ?!?!.............. asking for a friend....... lol

What is interesting about female underpants?

It's imbued with mystical powers and mythical status in Japan, lol

We gave it to the police and never heard anything about it. No idea if he was arrested or not.

The police probably kept it............ for personal surveillance, lol

Now that this guy Masaki Mori, 46, has admitted to the allegation. Personally I think he should be stripped of all financial possessions he had earned making a living off selling the non-consensually filmed videos. Also the police should audit and investigate the adult websites and fine give them severe punishing fines. As for the filming the upskirt videos of 112 women. I personally think the money should be should to provide protections for women against such acts and to promote more awareness that such things are occurring on a daily basis. Once the perp is out of jail he should provide 3 years of community service and give seminars on how these acts are being done and how women can protect themselves.

People out and about in public should have no expectation of privacy.

They do have an expectation of privacy in Japan when it comes to taking pictures up their skirts. And they are legally entitled to that expectation of privacy. So you're entirely incorrect, they should, and do, have an expectation of privacy.

And no, this does not happen on the same scale in other countries

What are you basing that on? I've never seen these numbers. Where are the numbers showing this happens more in Japan than in other countries?

Reflects how huge a business it is, and additionally explains why these crimes (rapes are also filmed) will continue...generation after generation of young Japanese men will continue to be socialized in such a manner along with the yellow fever foreigners.

This means of course that Japanese women will continue to be subject to porn-for-profit sex crimes.

Legrande called it years ago, and now that it's pretty much been confirmed people still can't face the music lol

It's not a dig. I understand that SK also has a problem with sexual deviancy.

You act as if there are countries where there aren't problems.

And there is nothing wrong with sexual deviancy, as long as it's all consensual.

wallaceFeb. 15  07:59 pm JST

Nonsense. There are laws, ordinances, and local rules that protect some aspects of public privacy such as upskirt filming.

If someone is out in public they should expect to be photographed, or recorded.

Take a walk in Shibuya. Cameras are everywhere. Government cameras.

Again, depending on your country's Covid and visa policy, if you ever get th chance to actually visit Japan, you will will see the cameras everywhere.

There are zero government cameras filming women's panties mate. None.

StrangerlandToday  03:03 am JST

There are zero government cameras filming women's panties mate. None.

You are that secluded? Cameras are especially prevalent in British Columbia. If you ever get to visit there, you'll see. It's actually common knowledge.

Here's a helpful link so you won't be stuck in denial:

https://priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/surveillance/police-and-public-safety/vs_060301

You are that secluded? Cameras are especially prevalent in British Columbia.

Not filming up women's skirts bruh.

Here's a helpful link so you won't be stuck in denial:

Nothing in their says there are government cameras filming up women's skirts bruh.

Keep trying though.

This is sadly very common. I've had numerable experiences where a strange man tried to take my picture. At the beach, in the park, on the train ... this problem is endemic. There needs to be a law specifically against this, as well as making it illegal to sell or post such pictures. Jail time and/or a large fine would be justice for the women who are abused in this way.

And no, taking consensual upskirt photos and pretending they are non-consensual isn't the solution either. Don't feed dark fantasies, or you just produce even more customers and let men believe their dark fantasies are normal (other men must also think this way!) and acceptable (other men do this so I can too).

You know, I think mens' magazines should be required to contain articles on consent, loving relationships, biographies of well-known female scientists, authors, business owners - in other words, articles that clearly spell out that women are people, women matter, women aren't sex objects, women should be respected, and consent matters. Because very clearly, there are too many men who don't seem to understand those things or else chose to ignore them. Maybe if we shove it in their face it will rub off at least a little bit or at least make them think.

If a guy is gonna enjoy porn, he should also be taught that porn is just porn and is not in any way related to real women and real relationships, and that non-consensual fantasies are just that, and should not be taken into real life.

StrangerlandToday 12:05 am JST

You act as if there are countries where there aren't problems.

You are too right about that!

But as you so like to point out, some countries are worse than others, and Japan is one of those places where peeping, flashing, upskirting, and other such activities are particularly common. I honestly cannot count the number of times I've had these experiences here.

And there is nothing wrong with sexual deviancy, as long as it's all consensual.

I can't disagree, but I think it is also important to keep in mind that there are a good number of sexual deviants who try to use that as cudgel. There is a line even among sexual deviants, and I say that as a deviant myself. In the community, we often refer to such people as "the broken stair." Perverts among perverts, if you will.

Non-consensual play is varsity level and not that many people really know how to handle it without damaging others. This is not to yuck someone's yum, but to make a point that balance is important in all things and blanket statements like "there is nothing wrong with sexual deviancy as long as it's all consensual" are especially dangerous when so many people really don't even know how to do consent.

ostrune2Feb. 15 10:08 pm JST

How did he ?!?!.............. asking for a friend....... lol

I take this to mean either of two things.

You either want to sexually assault women by taking non-consensual photos, or you think it's oh-so-HILARIOUS to joke about sexual assault and demean women in the process. Which is it?

RKL

wallace

Nonsense. There are laws, ordinances, and local rules that protect some aspects of public privacy such as upskirt filming.

> If someone is out in public they should expect to be photographed, or recorded.

> Take a walk in Shibuya. Cameras are everywhere. Government cameras.

They do not take upskirt photos.

You know, I think mens' magazines should be required to contain articles on consent, loving relationships, biographies of well-known female scientists, authors, business owners - in other words, articles that clearly spell out that women are people, women matter, women aren't sex objects, women should be respected, and consent matters. Because very clearly, there are too many men who don't seem to understand those things or else chose to ignore them. Maybe if we shove it in their face it will rub off at least a little bit or at least make them think.

When you wish upon a star...........

 Maybe if we shove it in their face it will rub off at least a little bit or at least make them think.

This whole "US against THEM" mentality is only thought out in an extreme feminist community. If a man said the things said in this "comment" about women, he would be seen as a "pig" as feminists would so eloquently put it. The acts this person comitted against all those women be it consensual or non-consensual is outright un-acceptable, appauling and he should be under the ground that's underneath the prison and the key flown to the sun. But his acts does not imply that all men do this and deserve to be taught that "women aren't sex objects" and all that razz! Of course men think it, heck, I sometimes do too. But that's the differenct between men and monsters. If I think of filming up women's skirts (which I personally think is VERY stupid and pointless) but keep those thoughts to myself like most men vs a guy who actually going through the act AND making a profit off his stupid and selfish acts, do you still see a reason to :

think mens' magazines should be required to contain articles on consent, loving relationships, biographies of well-known female scientists, authors, business owners - in other words, articles that clearly spell out that women are people, women matter, women aren't sex objects, women should be respected, and consent matters?

lostrune2 Feb. 15  10:08 pm JST

How did he ?!?!.............. asking for a friend....... lol

Yeah.....that's not even funny! What if your loved ones were at one point one of his victims?

you're saying we shouldn't point out problems in a country because problems exist everywhere?

No, I'm saying it shouldn't be identified as being specific to a country, rather than just humanity. It's not like SK "also" has a problem with deviancy, it's that humanity has a problem with certain people not respecting other's boundaries and bodies.

And no, this does not happen on the same scale in other countries

What are you basing that on? I've never seen these numbers. Where are the numbers showing this happens more in Japan than in other countries?

What numbers would you expect?

How about anything whatsoever to support the assertion that it happens on a larger scale in Japan than other countries. As it stands now it's an empty assertion, and not unsupported by any evidence or fact.

Notice that there are female-only train carriages with surveillance cameras/ Go to a bookshop and take note of the manga with scenes of group rape of underage children. Watch some TV and notice the sexualisation of girls. Check the news regularly and note the high number of reports about stalking, upskirt photo taking, cameras hidden in toilets and changing rooms, chikan on trains. DO a little research into how Japanese society operates and how sexual crimes are often downplayed and ignored by the police and the media. Note the very low rape and sexual assault reporting rate and consider why Japanese women might be so reluctant to report being assaulted. There are no 'numbers for this understanding. It just requires a little inquisitiveness, a little investigation into the evidence that surrounds you and genuine love and caring for the society you have made your home and the people, the women in particular, who live there.

Ok, so you suspect there may be more here, but don't actually have any actual numbers. Got it.

Excuse me for not picking up on your outrage then.

This whole "US against THEM" mentality is only thought out in an extreme feminist community.

You keep asserting this, and it keeps not being true.

If a man said the things said in this "comment" about women, he would be seen as a "pig" as feminists would so eloquently put it.

Let's look at this and clarify the pronouns, shall we?

 Maybe if we shove it in their face it will rub off at least a little bit or at least make them think.

If society shoves sexual consent into the faces of the men who take upskirt photos, ... it might make the men who violate consent think.

Tell me what exactly is sexist or "us against them" about that sentence.

But his acts does not imply that all men do this and deserve to be taught that "women aren't sex objects" and all that razz!

I do not believe, and have never said that I believe, that all men are of the same mind. You make this assertion time after time after time, with me continually correcting you, but you won't drop the accusation. I think you either aren't listening, aren't paying attention, or you just enjoy fighting with me so much that you don't want to listen or pay attention.

Is everything you understand about the world based on numbers? Okaay ,..

When dealing with statements like X happens "exponentially more" in Y, you are dealing with macro numbers. Large scale. And large scale declarations must be supported with numbers, or they are just angry rhetoric.

All you can really say logically is that you think there may be a bigger problem in Japan, and you feel more in danger here. You are allowed to have your personal opinions on those. But when you claim your personal opinion is actually objective reality on a macro scale is not logical, and not a conclusion that can be made.

I understand you feel more fear in Japan. But that does not mean Japan is actually somewhere you should feel more afraid in. It just means you have feelings, which is ok. But feelings do not equate to reality, and trauma can impact upon a person's feelings in an illogical manner.

I do not believe, and have never said that I believe, that all men are of the same mind.

And yet you regularly make negative misandric statements that refer to 'men' in as a whole, rather than targeting the ones who are a problem.

StrangerlandFeb. 16 11:58 pm JST

And yet you regularly make negative misandric statements that refer to 'men' in as a whole, rather than targeting the ones who are a problem.

No, I don't - and for all your protestations that evidence is needed, somehow you can never actually provide evidence that I make "misandrist statements" that refer to men as a whole. In this case, for example, I am clearly talking only about men who take non-consensual upskirt pictures. How is that in any way misandrist? Just because I occasionally leave off qualifying statements like "men who" or "the men that" doesn't make me misandrist. It just means due to your bias against me, you're taking the most hostile view of what I am writing while ignoring what I actually mean.

I understand you feel more fear in Japan. But that does not mean Japan is actually somewhere you should feel more afraid in. It just means you have feelings, which is ok. But feelings do not equate to reality, and trauma can impact upon a person's feelings in an illogical manner.

Women don't feel fear because they have talked themselves into it. They feel fear either because they know there is danger, and/or and because they have previously experienced dangerous situations. You seem to be saying this fear is unrealistic and all in our heads, which is not only demeaning towards women, is inaccurate and wrong.

Being wary is NORMAL, and it's also SMART, since we all know sex crimes happen and we can never predict when or where, or even who, might attack us.

On articles about rape and sexual assault men continually berate the victim by saying things like, "she should not have gone home with that guy" or "she should not have trusted that man" or "why did she let him into her house." This type of comment indicates that the writer thinks that women should not trust men they know and men they date.

Then you come at me asking me why I keep stating that I don't trust strangers walking on the street at night, and that women need to take precautions such as not walking alone at night or avoiding men on the street.

You can't be so inconsistent - are there men who are a danger to women, or aren't there? Should women be careful, take precautions, and not trust men, or shouldn't they? Should women be aware of the dangers, or ignore them? Should women speak out as way to warn other women raise awareness of the problems we face, or should we just never talk about them? Because it seems talking about these dangers offends you so much that you think you have to jump in and defend Japan.

A final note. Women who live in Japan aren't concerned about whether the rape rates are higher in other countries, because WE LIVE IN JAPAN. I don't understand why you continually have to point out that other countries are more dangerous, when it has nothing whatsoever to do with those of us living here.

I wonder, would you go on a comment section of a US newspaper and berate the women there because the rate of rape in, say, Mexico, is worse than that of the US?

What is your ISSUE with trying to prove Japan is a safety country where women can just blithely ignore the dangers around us because somewhere out there in the world there is a place where rape stats are even higher?

That makes zero sense.

You can read Japanese, yes?

Then do some research in that language and find out what Japanese women are saying and thinking. Here is a good place to start:

"日本での#MeTooムーブメントは控えめなものだった。性暴力を受けたときに被害届を出す人はわずか２．８％。被害者が落ち度を責められたり、公の場でつらい思いをさせられたりするためだ。

多くの場合、被害者は被害を誰にも明かさない。２０１７年の内閣府男女共同参画局の調査によると、性行為を強要された女性の６割近くは、誰にも言わなかったという."

https://jp.reuters.com/article/japan-rape-law-idJPKCN1TC0AE

Or are you just going to tell those women it's all in their heads and they needn't worry?

are you just going to tell those women it's all in their heads and they needn't worry?

No, I'm saying that objectively, the reported crimes in Japan are very low. I understand these are under-reported, but even working in the numbers you have previously provided, it would appear Japan is safer than other countries reported numbers - and it's not like these crimes are not under-reported as well.

I'm not going to tell these women they shouldn't feel they way they feel at all. On the contrary, they have every right to feel the way they do, and to structure their lives to protect themselves in accordance. However, when you start to make claims that Japan is "exponentially" worse than other countries, this goes from expressing how one feels, to telling others they must accept that the problem is exponentially worse in Japan based purely on their feelings, rather than any objective fact. I'm not going to declare Japan a hell-hole of sexual assault based on some people's feelings. I do agree that Japan has much to do to deal with in regards to these issues, as no one should have to live in fear, and it's clear an issue does exist.

However, when you start to make claims that Japan is "exponentially" worse than other countries

I have never said this. In fact, I have repeatedly said that comparisons are nonsensical and irrelevant. The closest I came to something similar is this:

This is sadly very common. I've had numerable experiences where a strange man tried to take my picture. At the beach, in the park, on the train ... this problem is endemic.

Note I did not say "in Japan as compared to other places" or even "in Japan". I also did not use the word exponentially, so I have no idea where you even got the idea I believe this.

You, and others, are the ones continually making comparisons. You especially employ comparisons whenever someone talks about their experiences in Japan, as a way to defend Japan.

Look... I have been here for 30 years, which is longer than I lived in the US - over twice as long, in fact. I don't compare Japan to elsewhere because Japan is where I live and anywhere else does not matter to me.

If I say "in Japan" it's to make clear to this largely foreign audience that I am not talking about my native country or theirs, but am referring to Japan.

Just as when I sometimes fail to make qualifying statements when talking about male on female violence, you are jumping on instances where I said "in Japan" and are drawing these conclusions based on your own biased and hostile view of me, and not anything I have actually said or meant. Please get that though your head because I am tired of having this conversation with you again and again: I am not a misandrist, and I do not think Japan is more dangerous than other countries, nor does it matter to me if it is or if it isn't since comparisons are irrelevant and nonsensical to those of us who live HERE.

No, I'm saying that objectively, the reported crimes in Japan are very low.

WHO CARES.

I have never said this.

But you butted yourself into the conversation while it is said, when you challenged something I said in response to someone who did claim that.

You, and others, are the ones continually making comparisons.

You're falling behind on the conversation. I came into this thread discussing this comparison that was made by someone else:

And no, this does not happen on the same scale in other countries *except perhaps South Korea).

WHO CARES.

It's a public forum, where someone made the comment. I care enough to have replied.