Fighting intensifies in southeastern Ukraine, with Russia inflicting heavy losses

It’s time to stop this now, thousands are dying and maimed for life even the children. Towns and cities are being decimated and so much money is wasted on that could be used for good causes.

Both nations are despicable, both use cluster bombs shunned by most of the decent countries, they have no shame, no empathy, nothing.

FFS, take it up with Putin. Ukraine will not stop defending herself against the invaders.

Who decided that it would be 'rebel held Syria' both before and after the American invasion, but never 'rebel held Ukraine', and always 'Russian occupied Ukraine' after the Russian intervention?

NATO's plan continues undeterred. Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. The mask is off. All those Nazis who were so vital to the founding of NATO was no coincidence.

https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1684636016273932288?s=20

The last couple of days on the front have been terrible. Detailed analysis of the last 48 hours on the battlefield , including a number of verified geo located clips on this Military Summary site - make your own conclusions. It speaks for itself. https://youtu.be/nFW9yx3Gdag

The sooner this stops the better for everyone.

Who decided that it would be 'rebel held Syria' both before and after the American invasion, but never 'rebel held Ukraine', and always 'Russian occupied Ukraine' after the Russian intervention?

The Syrian war began with Syrians fighting Syrians, hence those rebelling against the government forces are 'rebels', regardless of who joins in later. Check your dictionary.

The war in Ukraine began when russia sent troops and arms into the country and used military force, with the help of a few malcontents, to occupy territory, hence 'russian occupied territory'.

Personally I prefer to call it 'temporarily occupied territory'.

but never 'rebel held Ukraine', and always 'Russian occupied Ukraine' after the Russian intervention?

No matter how hard you simp for Russia it will always be a Russian invasion.

You can pretend it’s a ‘special military operation’ or ‘liberation’ or ‘denazification’ but it will always be an invasion. And the odium of that will always be on Russia.

And a bit of that lingering whiff will be on you too.

no empathy

Ironic considering you're placing the country defending itself with the country doing the invading. They're not the same. Pathetic.

END THIS CARNAGE NOW, END THIS MASSECAR NOW, Stop killing these men and women for the EGO of a lunatic. and Stop fueling this fire.

Ukraine has nearly reached the first Russian line of defence in a small area in the south, while Russia has taken a larger chunk of not very important farmland in the north. The Russian defensive lines show that give or take a few kms, they are where the end game is going to be. All that remains is when and how many more deaths. The Ukrainian fans will say it's up to Putin but try to be realistic. This is so much more important to Russia than it is to the US. Of course it's important to Ukraine but they are done. Reliant on NATO for everything. When is the US election?

RichardPearce

Who decided that it would be 'rebel held Syria' both before and after the American invasion, but never 'rebel held Ukraine', and always 'Russian occupied Ukraine' after the Russian intervention?

Because without Russia's intervention in 2014, there would be no rebels, no civil war.

Of course it's important to Ukraine but they are done.

You wish. They’ll never be done. Would you?

Actually, I think you would be

You are gonna have to delude yourself for many years to come on your keyboard.

So maynwig things to continue but got forbid not of it were one of their families likely to die on the front lines.

There will be NO WINNER or looser in this war, when an innocent life is ended violently we all loose.

Lose

So maynwig things to continue but got forbid not of it were one of their families likely to die on the front lines.

And yet the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians want to keep fighting.

It’s war so there will be good days and bad days and there will be other days in between.

falseflagsteve

So maynwig things to continue but got forbid not of it were one of their families likely to die on the front lines.

Try Grammarly

https://www.grammarly.com/

Cards Fan

Its called government propaganda, it vey effective ad been improved immensely inc it was first used in the mid by the Nazis in the 30’s. Any media tat says anything thee government don’t agree with have been closed down, dissent is treated as a crime. Both countries press gang people into the military and both controlled by oligarchs. Both awful and draconian regimes.

The Russians laid multi-levels of land mines which tanks are not resistant to.

Mr Kipling

Ukraine has nearly reached the first Russian line of defence in a small area in the south

More likely they have broken through that defensive line:

*The Institute of Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, reported that Ukrainian forces launched “a significant mechanized counteroffensive operation" in western Zaporizhzhia on Wednesday and “appear to have broken through certain pre-prepared Russian defensive positions.”*

Its called government propaganda

Call it whatever you want, but the majority of Ukrainians want to defend their homes. What you want is to force them to do something they don't want to do.

UPDATE - this article is obviously half a day behind events unfolding now.

Russia launched what is believed to be the biggest single day round of missile strikes yet, targeting places all over the country, including the west.

Even Zelensky, who usually claims more missiles shot down then launched, acknowledged the damage; hard not to with the huge hits unleashed and all over social media.

Targets varied, but a particular airfield in the west was hit hard - because it housed the Su-24 Fencers modified for the Storm Shadow missile.

This is the ongoing bad news that people were mocking - Russia has basically tripled advanced munition production.

More details to come.

Stop this madness.

and find where the $45billion cash given to Ukraine government went.

peace now.

More likely they have broken through that defensive line: The Institute of Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, reported that Ukrainian forces launched “a significant mechanized counteroffensive operation" in western Zaporizhzhia on Wednesday and “appear to have broken through certain pre-prepared Russian defensive positions.”**

You can watch the informative video evidence of the breakthrough with your own eyes here. Apparently updated 5 hours ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFW9yx3Gdag&t=345s Summer Operations | Now or Never, Hell On The Southern Front. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.07.27. It speaks for itself.

"The Russians laid multi-levels of land mines which tanks are not resistant to."

Indeed it appears so, also the Lancets are causing a lot of damage.

La vie douceToday  08:52 am JST

Looking at reliable Telegram channels I've found no evidence of the "big breakthrough".

This is attrition warfare, not maneuver warfare.

Russian lines are exactly that - multiple lines.

I have however seen much evidence of UAF columns getting mauled as per usual.

Cleo, nice theory, problem is that the facts don't match it.

CC, then by your own admission, it will ALWAYS be an AMERICAN INVASION, and the odium of that will always be on America, Obama in particular.

And more than a whiff of that sticks to you (especially the whiff of the losing side of WW2)

It's not often that 2020 and 1984 are the same thing, but add a little hindsight and the equation balances.

The Syrian civil war started on 15 March 2011 as part of the wider 2011 Arab Spring protests out of discontent with the Syrian government, eventually escalating to an armed conflict after protests calling for Assad's removal were violently suppressed.

The Ukrainian war started in February 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea. Intensified when it invaded the larger part of the country. 24 February 2022, Russia launched a military invasion of Ukraine in a steep escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War.

"La vie douceToday  08:52 am JST

Looking at reliable Telegram channels I've found no evidence of the "big breakthrough". This is attrition warfare, not maneuver warfare.Russian lines are exactly that - multiple lines."

Yes, the videos appear to show heavy equipment losses by UAF, seems the breakthrough did not eventuate.

Fighting intensifies in southeastern Ukraine, with Russia inflicting heavy losses

Seriously?

After checking other sources I believe there is mistake in headline of this article.Reality is that Kiev junta is the one inflicting heavy losses.

People are looking at this from a distance as if it's an online Football game while so many young souls are being ended in the name of this so called "Self defense" war, there must be a better way to end this miserable fighting and bring peace to Ukraine and Russia alike.

way to end this miserable fighting and bring peace to Ukraine and Russia alike.

Sure, there can be peace when the invaders leave.

wallace

The Syrian civil war started on 15 March 2011 as part of the wider 2011 Arab Spring protests out of discontent with the Syrian government, eventually escalating to an armed conflict after protests calling for Assad's removal were violently suppressed.

Not true.

Syrian civil war have started after "liberalization of Libya" with tricolored terrorists supported by NATO have ended so guys have moved to Syria and wanted to do same thing there.Thanks ato russian direct involvement Libya new ver did not happened.

The Ukrainian war started in February 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea. Intensified when it invaded the larger part of the country. 24 February 2022, Russia launched a military invasion of Ukraine in a steep escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War.

Not true.

conflict in Ukraine have started after maidan events when puppet proUSA gov was installed and many citizens of Ukraine did not want live in country with fascist regime opressing their rights.there was urprising in eatern parts of Ukraine against Kiev gangsters,later on volunterr from Russia and other countries were involved.Crimea was not invaded by Russia.Russia have had navy in port of Sevastopol.citizens of Crimea in referendum have decided be out of Ukraine and later became part of Russia.Russia did not want see NATO basements in Crimea.If we are talking about february 2023 we need to stop for a little and talk about Minsk agreements UA NATO side have ignored largely so there it was a serious reason for russian action.

conflict in Ukraine have started after maidan events when puppet proUSA gov was installed and many citizens of Ukraine did not want live in country with fascist regime opressing their rights.there was urprising in eatern parts of Ukraine against Kiev gangsters,later on volunterr from Russia and other countries were involved.Crimea was not invaded by Russia.Russia have had navy in port of Sevastopol.citizens of Crimea in referendum have decided be out of Ukraine and later became part of Russia.Russia did not want see NATO basements in Crimea.If we are talking about february 2023 we need to stop for a little and talk about Minsk agreements UA NATO side have ignored largely so there it was a serious reason for russian action.

None of that justifies Russia invading. This is laughable logic. Oh, Russia gets invade Ukraine and steal large parts of the country, because they're no longer able to control Ukraine as vassal state. Cry me a river.

The Ukrainian military is changing its tactics in an attempt to avoid the significant casualties that have so far blighted its counteroffensive against Russian forces, the Financial Times reported on Wednesday, citing officials in Kiev and the West. 

The outlet’s sources claimed that Ukrainian losses had been “heavy” in the first weeks of its much-anticipated operation, with attempts to penetrate Russian defensive lines so far costing Kiev “almost a fifth of NATO kit” provided for the effort. 

The FT report follows a similar article by the New York Times earlier this month, which claimed that Kiev had lost almost 20% of the weapons it sent to the battlefield in just the first two weeks of the counteroffensive. White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has also confirmed that Ukraine has lost a “significant” number of troops, but claimed it still had “substantial” reserves. 

Just to add some lines to story from here as well.

You can watch the informative video evidence of the breakthrough with your own eyes here. Apparently updated 5 hours ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFW9yx3Gdag&t=345s Summer Operations | Now or Never, Hell On The Southern Front. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.07.27. It speaks for itself.

"I'll stick with ISW, they tend to be more reliable."

Fair enough, personally I found this channel informative and balanced with verified numerous video evidence supporting its analysis.

La vie douce

Fair enough, personally I found this channel informative and balanced with verified numerous video evidence supporting its analysis.

Sure, but it is an obviously pro-Russian channel that takes Russian sources (milbloggers and Russian news sources) on face value, which may not be that accurate.

I prefer less biased news and analysis.

Narrative change beginning to occur in mainstream US media. Hopefully moves towards a negotiated settlement to the conflict will follow.

"Experts say expecting Kiev to win is definition of ‘insanity’ – USA Today"

Continuing to arm Ukraine and expecting it to defeat Russia is “strategic insanity” for Washington and other NATO members because Kiev is locked in an unwinnable stalemate with a foe that never aimed to conquer the former Soviet republic, USA Today reported, citing multiple US foreign-policy experts.The report, published on Thursday, hints at a shifting narrative for Western media outlets, which had been touting Ukraine’s alleged battlefield successes, as well as vows by the Biden administration that Kiev must be supported with massive military and economic aid for “as long as it takes” to win the conflict with Russia."

La vie douceToday  10:15 am JST

Narrative change beginning to occur in mainstream US media. Hopefully moves towards a negotiated settlement to the conflict will follow.

"Experts say expecting Kiev to win is definition of ‘insanity’ – USA Today"

That's not US media, that is RT, Russian propaganda.

Experts also said that Ukraine would fold in February 2022.

"Experts say expecting Kiev to win is definition of ‘insanity’ – USA Today"

RT garbage.

"Sure, but it is an obviously pro-Russian channel that takes Russian sources (milbloggers and Russian news sources) on face value, which may not be that accurate. - I prefer less biased news and analysis."

I found this channel includes both Russian and Ukraninan videos in its analysis ( but yes majority of the video clips are from Russian milbloggers - which western media usually doesn't show ). Hard to dispute the numerous video evidence though.

I wouldn't say ISW is more reliable or less biased but each to their own, the good thing about living in 2023 is that we can source information from multiple sources to form a balanced view. Just my personal opinion.

Meanwhile, Russia announced, as Africa applauded, that while the Black Sea deal wouldn't be revived unless all of its provisions were treated as important, those countries in dire need wouldn't suffer, Russia would be shipping them the tons of grain that they didn't get while the deal was in place.

Which leaves EU states in a bit of a bind, defy Washington or be seen literally buying grain out of the countries that need it to keep their populations from objecting to arming the Kyiv regime in its war against Donbass and Crimea.

If abducting tens of thousands of children can be considered inflicting casualties, then maybe that is what the P is saying. Or perhaps the starving of third world people who will not get the food now that P is attacking the supply.

Experts say expecting Kiev to win is definition of ‘insanity’ – USA Today" ...................RT garbage.*

So do you realistically expect Ukraine to win, looking at the huge losses suffered since the main push of the counter offensive started in the last couple of days?

So do you realistically expect Ukraine to win

Yes.

" do you realistically expect Ukraine to win ...... Yes"

I understand the sentiment but it doesn't seem realistic in light of the recent developments.

I understand the sentiment but it doesn't seem realistic in light of the recent developments.

What recent developments? You mean the multiple breakthroughs along the front? Perhaps you mean the villages they've retaken, or perhaps you're talking about all of the weapons and fuel depos the Ukrainian military has blown up? The lack of any specificity leads me to believe this is just nonsense. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that taking back their country won't be bloody.

"What recent developments? You mean the multiple breakthroughs along the front? Perhaps you mean the villages they've retaken, or perhaps you're talking about all of the weapons and fuel depos the Ukrainian military has blown up? The lack of any specificity leads me to believe this is just nonsense."

What developments?- denial much? I have already posted the link to the daily battle field analysis website above - the multiple geo located videos show the reality of what is happening on the ground. UAF tanks / armored vehicle losses over the last 48 hours are staggering. They are very specific - you can close your eyes and pretend they don't exist in order to safeguard your narrative but the reality of dozens of armored vehicles being destroyed during the offensive action in the last 2 days is there, plain to see. Why don't you watch that video evidence before commenting?

And yes, correct , UAF did retake 1 village - Staromaiorske....I watch video evidence from both sides before posting in order to form unbiased view, unlike you it seems. I wish ceasefire negotiations come soon in order to minimize further casualties , as this stalemate shows no prospect of resolution.

La vie douce

*Experts say expecting Kiev to win is definition of ‘insanity’ – USA Today" ...................**RT garbage.**

So do you realistically expect Ukraine to win, looking at the huge losses suffered since the main push of the counter offensive started in the last couple of days?

I think that there appears now to be little prospect of the Russian forces regaining momentum. So they don't need to worry about Russia taking back land. I know there were some gains up North, but they are being pushed back and lack actual momentum.

Also, if Ukraine do break through the forward defences, they could make a breakthrough. They aren't using the numbers that Russian milbloggers are quoting. Before this push, Russian losses have constantly been higher than Ukrainian losses, even though Ukraine is on the attack. It remains to be seen if this is still the case.

Russian forces are brittle and a breakthrough is definitely possible.

As they say, wars are impossible to predict.

the multiple geo located videos show the reality of what is happening on the ground. UAF tanks / armored vehicle losses over the last 48 hours are staggering. 

That might be what RT says, but again: note the lack of specificity. "Staggering vehicle losses," scary scary.

the reality of dozens of armored vehicles being destroyed during the offensive action in the last 2 days is there, plain to see.

Oh wow, "dozens." Good thing there's more where they came from. By the way, how do the alleged losses stack up against Russian losses?

"As they say, wars are impossible to predict."

Yes , that is true.

" I think that there appears now to be little prospect of the Russian forces regaining momentum. So they don't need to worry about Russia taking back land. "

I agree on that point, I think Russians are interested in holding their defense line and in long term the territory they have taken until now. Dont think they,re interested in fighting for Kiyv and the rest of Ukraine.