Pence says Trump 'endangered my family' on Jan 6

Mike says the utterly obvious and angers the base by dissing his old boss and the sane by dithering about a failed coup for more than 2 years.

See ya, Mike. You could have been someone. Now you’re just another politician saying the sky is blue in pursuit of a job you’ll never have.

Too little too late.

You had a chance to raise this point before Congress and chose not to. Coward.

Mike says the utterly obvious and angers the base by dissing his old boss and the sane by dithering about a failed coup for more than 2 years. 

No anger. Pence can say what he wants, he’s polling at 2% so let him run and let him have his fun. It’ll be short-lived and that’s it.

See ya, Mike. You could have been someone. Now you’re just another politician saying the sky is blue in pursuit of a job you’ll never have.

Yup.

He joked that Trump's ego was so fragile, he wanted his vice president to sing “Wind Beneath My Wings” — one of the lines is “did you ever know that you’re my hero?” — during their weekly lunches.

Pence is a religious fundamentalist that would probably turn the US into something out of the Handmaid's Tale, but this shows he at least has some sense of humor. He did work closely with the former President for 4 years after all.

The fly in his hair knew before even we did that he was a political corpse, lol.

The insurrection leading Trump and the guy he wanted to hang. Almost succeeded.

They're both running for the GOP nomination? Bring it down, I mean, on. haha.

Good 'ole Mike Pence - a hero of the right, the Trump loyal lapdog, the darling of MAGA-world for over four years - all the way up until 2:00 pm on Jan 6th...

“President Trump was wrong," Pence said during remarks Saturday at the annual white-tie Gridiron Dinner attended by politicians and journalists. "I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day

Well, heck, that didn't take too long - just two years for Mike to finally speak out against the guy that sent the crazed mob of MAGA-terrorists to hang him and his family...

and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

Your statement might have a little more credibility Mike if you hadn't turned down testifying before the Jan 6th committee and fighting your current subpoena from the Special Counsel...

Want to hold Donald accountable? Then go under oath and tell the truth about what led up to the "disgrace" of that day...

Pence can run, but he’ll fade out in the early primaries very fast.

Telling it as it was. How quickly the republican supporters abandon their own when they don't like the truth like Pence stating the 2020 election wasn't a fraud.

No one was more loyal to Trump than Pence.

NOT just your family Sir, Trump endangered the whole nation including his own family. Trump is a clear and present danger to all of us.

Mike could have done the nation a favor by voicing his concerns when he was in office but he did NOT, he went along with Trump and dragged the nation straight up to Jan. 6th.

I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable.

Yep. But before that, the US Justice system will have its say and I think it will have rather a lot to say about the actions of one Dotard Insurrectionist in Chief.

He seems to think he is going to just walk away from it like nothing happened.

Yeah, that is NOT what is going to happen.

I'm ready for the next Dominion - Fox News e-mail dump....

The one where Carlson says in private that he loves Mike Pence but still "hates Trump passionately"...

ROFL..

Telling it as it was. How quickly the republican supporters abandon their own when they don't like the truth like Pence stating the 2020 election wasn't a fraud.

Not at all, most Republicans and conservatives I personally know just never thought Pence was Presidential material and speaking of eating their own….

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-criticism-223318

No one was more loyal to Trump than Pence.

Yes, and?

Not at all, most Republicans and conservatives I personally know just never thought Pence was Presidential material and speaking of eating their own….

Most Republicans and conservatives you know believed Fox News that Trump won in 2020, so it's not like you're dealing with intelligent people able to sort right from wrong.

I think you should stop believing people stupid enough to believe Fox News. After all, you also got sucked into Election Denial.

He's just another GOP loser like the rest of them.

bass4funk

Yes, and?

How quickly Trump and his supporters throw people under the bus. Just like all the looters and rioters jailed for Jan 6.

How quickly Trump and his supporters throw people under the bus. Just like all the looters and rioters jailed for Jan 6.

To be fair, MTG is working on getting them a pardon. A pardon for sedition.

Not at all, most Republicans and conservatives I personally know just never thought Pence was Presidential material and speaking of eating their own….

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-criticism-223318

Another non sequitur, false analogy, illogical link from the right.

Bernie Sanders is an Independent, sometimes participates in Democratic primaries, is very critical of the Neo-liberal Democratic establishment etc etc.

Would not be a lap dog VP of Clinton or Biden like Pence was for Trump.

Total what-aboutism failure.

Mike is just another 3% of the vote candidate to take votes away from everybody else but Trump.

Some posters have to dial back to 2016 to find something.

Mike is just another 3% of the vote candidate to take votes away from everybody else but Trump.

The more the conservative vote is split, the better.

I'm curious where you got your 3% number from though, believing Fox News again, like when you believed them that Trump won in 2020?

The more the conservative vote is split, the better.

The better for Trump, yes.

The better for Trump, yes.

Yes, it will help him win the primary.

I remember when you guys thought he could beat Biden last time, do you think he can this next time?

Oh wait, you still think Trump beat him in 2020, can't forget we're dealing with an Election Denier.

I'm not sure how we're supposed to have a rational argument even when you still believe Fox News after they admitted under oath they were lying to you guys.

Splitting the vote has actually become a Democrat problem:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/the-newest-political-party-on-the-ballot-in-three-states-has-democrats-terrified

And do you feel that you, as someone who believed Fox News when they told you Trump won in 2020, have any credibility left on, well on anything, after having it been proved you aren't able to tell when you are being lied to on a massive scale, even with all the evidence out there available to you?

Splitting the vote has actually become a Democrat problem:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/the-newest-political-party-on-the-ballot-in-three-states-has-democrats-terrified

Citing Fox News? You still believe them? Even after Hannity, Ingraham, and Pirro said Trump's election fraud claims were all "BS" in private but lied to you on air saying they were true? And Tucker making out like he was a true MAGA warrior when he was texting his bosses that he "hated Trump passionately"?

You going to continue to let Fox play you for a sucker?

odd that you never talk about Pence in articles about Pence

Pot, kettle..

Any thoughts about Pence criticizing socialism while his Trump/Pence admin loved socialism for the rich?

https://theweek.com/articles/936534/trump-bigger-socialist-than-biden

Okay thought not...

Trump will destroy the GOP, blame someone else, and then ask for donations.

You going to continue to let Fox play you for a sucker?

To be fair, the higher-ups at Fox are actively censoring any reporting on the lies of their "journalists", so it's likely he hasn't actually heard the truth. He would have to actually partake of non-fake news to be able to have heard the non-fake news.

Trump will destroy the GOP, blame someone else, and then ask for donations.

Ideally.

https://theweek.com/articles/936534/trump-bigger-socialist-than-biden

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Sources with an AllSides Media Bias Rating of Lean Left display media bias in ways that moderately align with liberal, progressive, or left-wing thought and/or policy agendas

You guys said those were all fake news though. Are you saying we can trust them now?

Can we trust your beloved Fox News do you think?

*Sources with an AllSides Media Bias Rating of Lean Left display media bias in ways that moderately align with liberal, progressive, or left-wing thought and/or policy agendas*

Weak deflection.

https://www.aei.org/articles/trumps-corporate-welfare-problem/

Here is a far-right corporate stooge source with the same theme.

The whole Republican Party from RINOs, fundamentalists like Pence and MAGA lack any intellectual rigor for any of their positions.

Former Vice-Presidents Mike Pence and Dan Quayle saved American democracy. Period.

The idea that Donald Trump would ever win an electoral college majority much less a popular vote majority is so farsical as to cause one to question the cognition and, dare I say, "sanity" of anyone that would postulate it.

Believing that would be as dumb as believing that 2020 was stolen from him.

Oh, wait.....

Believing that would be as dumb as believing that 2020 was stolen from him.

That's mean, we know both Bass and Blacklabels still swear by their gods that their god on earth won in 2020.

Trump endangered every family in the USA with his stupid covid anti-vaccine stance and covering up of data for political reasons. Had both parties put politics aside as it related to Covid, the US would have been vaccinated similar to Canadian rates with 600K more people likely NOT to die had that happened. The liar-in-chief caused that through continuous misinformation.

Trump will soon be indicted - maybe this week - the first of multiple indictments...he's toast...finito....done...with exception of which federal pen he'll end up at...

DeSantis knows this - that's why he has his new book out and is traipsing around Iowa rather than Tallahassee...

Pence sees his path as the RINO/establishment choice...with the others; Haley, Pompeo, Graham, et al, all trailing behind him...

The MAGA-minions are all already switching their loyalty to "The Groomer"...so it will all come down to who the big Repub money donors support - Ron or Mike...

My guess is DeSantis wins, the RINOs get behind him, and Trump throws a fit and declares himself a third party candidate from behind bars and rails against DeSantis as a "phony"...which splits the conservative vote handing another term to Biden/Harris...

The question will be, does Ron yell "rigged" when he loses? Given the current anti-democratic bent in the GOP, I'd say yes...

Will Trump be president again ?

No, it won't.

This isn't then.

Even the rubes know what a loser (as well as a felon in waiting) he is.

Low-energy Don isn't more erudite. He's just low energy.

Trump endangered a hell of a lot more than just your family that day, Mike.

Pence is as conservative as can be. Except he broke the current First Commandment of the GOP: “I am the Lord thy Trump. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” He has also taken the name of the Trump in vain.

That’s not a joke, by the way.

Democrats hate Pence because he’s an odious theocrat. Republicans hate Pence because he doesn’t lie enough.

Anyway, we’re all in agreement. Pence ain’t going nowhere.

45 will never become 47. It’s laughable fantasy.

Yes you can quote me on that later.

I think you should stop believing people stupid enough to believe Fox News

I stopped believing liberals back in 1984

 think you should stop believing people stupid enough to believe Fox News

I stopped believing liberals back in 1984

Thank goodness for "citizen journalists", eh?

How quickly Trump and his supporters throw people under the bus

Nothing to throw, he was the VP

. Just like all the looters and rioters jailed for Jan 6.*

Summer of 2020 Democrat riots?

Pence is as conservative as can be. Except he broke the current First Commandment of the GOP: “I am the Lord thy Trump. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” He has also taken the name of the Trump in vain.

Naw, that’s the Dems weed smoking version of it. We think more like…”you want to run? Ok, got for it!”

That’s not a joke, by the way. 

Democrats hate Pence because he’s an odious theocrat.

Yes.

Republicans hate Pence because he doesn’t lie enough. 

No, because like Biden he’s nowhere near close to being Presidential, throw Kamal in as well..

Anyway, we’re all in agreement. Pence ain’t going nowhere.

True that.

Thank goodness for "citizen journalists", eh?

Wrong…

I stopped believing liberals back in 1984

And yet you believed Fox News when they told you Trump won in 2020.

Whoops, that sure makes you look bad in hindsight. Really, really bad. Especially since you still claim Trump won in 2020.

like Biden he’s nowhere near close to being Presidential,

Do you think Biden should try to overthrow democracy like Trump did, if he loses in 2024?

GOP supporters only fool themselves.

Like Harris, he is just a stupid fool with no charisma. America needs a new leader who is smart, and understands the way the world works.

GOP supporters only fool themselves.

Not when it comes to Pence.

Not when it comes to Pence.

If Pence loses in 2024, do you think he should follow Trump's lead and try to overthrow the government in a coup?

GOP supporters only fool themselves.

Not when it comes to Pence.

So the GOP supporters fool themselves in every other respect except when it comes to the personage of Mike Pence?

I could agree to that.

I have noticed a lack of mastery of basic syntax among GOP supporters which makes them easy to be manipulated.

So the GOP supporters fool themselves in every other respect except when it comes to the personage of Mike Pence?

No, just when it comes to Pence.

I have noticed a lack of mastery of basic syntax among GOP supporters which makes them easy to be manipulated.

Dunno, seems like the Dems have been manipulated quite a bit.

The thing that I cannot figure, is that Ron didn't really need to go the full-Dotard. He could have been a perfectly electable GOP figure running on a conservative, Corona-free platform that also embraced a more free-market approach to economics and I think he would have won the nomination and been a very strong candidate in the general. 

He has and still might.

But no. He went full-on nutter. Don't say gay. White men know more about AP courses on black history than the black scholars that made the course. Ban books on par w/ the Nazis. Scream "woke" at the top of his lungs even though he cannot come up with a coherent definition of what it even is beyond things that make White Conservatives uncomfy. And more hypocritically, use the power of government to interfere in the policies of businesses you don't agree with. 

So far he’s rising in the polls which basically means that the majority of people agree with him and support what he says and how he accomplished a lot of things as governor.

THAT is a full-on fascist platform, and it wasn't necessary. 

Democrats???

But little D went there. Too late to take it back now.

I don’t think he’s trying.

His shtick will play to the base, but not to independents outside of MAGA-land and especially not to young voters, of whom there are rather a lot. 

Not sure about that, we have been down this road in 2016 and Trump crushed the competition, and was loved for it.

It wasn't necessary to beat the Dotard and I am at pains to see why he went there. 

Hmmm…you think so??

Maybe Rock-star Ronnie, in spite of his Harvard/Yale resume, isn't really all that smart.

Not according to the haters and his growing rock star status.

Maybe Rock-star Ronnie, in spite of his Harvard/Yale resume, isn't really all that smart.

Not according to the haters and his growing rock star status.

You may not be "cognitively equipped" to recognize this, but the haters are mocking him (and his rubes).

And his schtick isn't going to play outside of MAGA-land. Especially with younger voters. Your boy's fan-bois? They are litterally dying off in God's waiting room (AKA the "great" state of Florida).

Unlike the GOP supporters here, Pence served the republican party for 40 years. Guess he should have stayed a Democrat.

You may not be "cognitively equipped" to recognize this,

Democrats???

but the haters are mocking him (and his rubes).

Thats ok, we hate the establishment just as much as they hate him, they can vote for RINO Pence.

And his schtick isn't going to play outside of MAGA-land.

Depends

Especially with younger voters. Your boy's fan-bois? They are litterally dying off in God's waiting room (AKA the "great" state of Florida).

Not so sure about that. There are 26 other states that put Trump way ahead of Ron, but either way, both are great.

Unlike the GOP supporters here, Pence served the republican party for 40 years.

Yes, and?

Guess he should have stayed a Democrat.

hmmm…

It's like Trump calling dead soldiers losers

The Dems and this administration calling Trump voters LIVING losers, wrong, but goes both ways.

   It's like Trump calling dead soldiers losers

> The Dems and this administration calling Trump voters LIVING losers, wrong, but goes both ways.

he’s nowhere near close to being Presidential

What makes Pence "not presidential material"? I'd like to know what makes MAGA people think so. Is he not conservative enough? And if so, how so?

What makes Pence "not presidential material"? I'd like to know what makes MAGA people think so. Is he not conservative enough? And if so, how so?

Compare him to Cory Booker then you’ll realize why.

Not so sure about that. There are 26 other states that put Trump way ahead of Ron, but either way, both are great.

Trump will not allow Ron to run for president. He will forbit it. It has to be Trump and only Trump. Stewart Rhodes for running mate.

No, just when it comes to Pence.

Trump's proud boys wanted to hang him for betraying Trump.

how he accomplished a lot of things as governor.

Rom is a socialist. Proof:

DeSantis signs bills seeking to stabilize the insurance market.....This has led to homeowners in Florida now being charged a 2% DeSantis property insurance tax through 2023.

(news quote)

Ron is using Florida tax money to fund the homeowner's insurance disaster in Florida. Trump will have something to say about that.

Summer of 2020 Democrat riots?

Hillary did not order this. It was organic trashy people bombing Starbucks and KFCs. No threat to the federal government like what Trump did. Trump ordered Proud Boys to storm the capitol. Proud Boys stand by (Trump). Also Patrick Crusius was influenced by Trump and shot up and killed many people in a Texas Walmart. Trump is a violent president and 99% of FOX viewers think that Biden stole the election. Clinton/Obama/Hunter/Biden never did any such thing. Then FOX fans obsess over Hunter's laptop.

--What makes Pence "not presidential material"? 

Compare him to Cory Booker then you’ll realize why.

That makes no sense whatsoever. I guess you can't come up with an answer.

Unless you can convince me otherwise, I'll keep assuming MAGA people hate Pence for one reason only: he went against the Lord 'n' Savior.

MAGA people hate Pence for one

Yes, they wanted to hang him.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

The left sadly never, ever do.

I guess you can't come up with an answer.

I did, but you seemed not satisfied

Unless you can convince me otherwise, I'll keep assuming MAGA people hate Pence for one reason only: he went against the Lord 'n' Savior.

Then that is what you want to do.

Then that is what you want to do.

Trump wants to be dictator and why he idolizes others like Putin. Putin has the pee tapes on Trump so Trump is at Putin's mercy.

If the truth is told. Trump endangered tens of millions of people's lives.

Maybe Rock-star Ronnie, in spite of his Harvard/Yale resume, isn't really all that smart.

Not according to the haters and his growing rock star status.

Well, one "hater" is a resident of Florida who has said that Ron is a "fat, whiny, phony"....that he bungled his state's COVID response, and most damaging, engaged in "grooming" underage high school girls...

You say he's a "rockstar", this Florida resident says he's a "pedo"....

What do you think about that?

--That makes no sense whatsoever.

The left sadly never, ever do.

You really think you're clever, don't you.

--Unless you can convince me otherwise, I'll keep assuming MAGA people hate Pence for one reason only: he went against the Lord 'n' Savior.

Then that is what you want to do.

It's not what I want to do. There simply is no other explanation. Pence refused to overturn the 2020 election, and MAGA cultists hate him for it.

End of story.

The Dems and this administration calling Trump voters LIVING losers, wrong, but goes both ways.

The truth sometimes hurts.

They are (by and large) losers, also-rans and whiners filled with white-grievance.

And unlike soldiers that gave the last full measure of devotion to their country, MAGA voters are net-takers who contribute little if anything to society.

So, NOT the same thing and not going both ways.

If the truth is told. Trump endangered tens of millions of people's lives.

Yeah, the left continue to say that….yawn

The truth sometimes hurts. 

For Democrats?

They are (by and large) losers, also-rans and whiners filled with white-grievance. 

Is that what the left thinks now?

And unlike soldiers that gave the last full measure of devotion to their country, MAGA voters are net-takers who contribute little if anything to society. 

Ahhh…lol

So, NOT the same thing and not going both ways.

I disagree

You really think you're clever, don't you.

Yes, indeed

It's not what I want to do. There simply is no other explanation. Pence refused to overturn the 2020 election, and MAGA cultists hate him for it.

Hmmm…ok

End of story.

No, it’s not.

So, NOT the same thing and not going both ways.

I disagree

Well you believe in things for which there is absolutely zero evidence so your opinion is "less valuable."

Trump called dead soldiers losers. That is documented fact.

It's not the same thing. Not by a long-shot.

Well you believe in things for which there is absolutely zero evidence so your opinion is "less valuable." 

As do the left.

Trump called dead soldiers losers. That is documented fact. 

And the left called Trump supporters deplorable

It's not the same thing. Not by a long-shot.

It very much is.

bass4funk

   If the truth is told. Trump endangered tens of millions of people's lives.

> Yeah, the left continue to say that….yawn

I'm not on the left. Already told you that....yawn

I'm not on the left. Already told you that....yawn

I doubt it

"In the days leading up to Jan. 6, 2021, Trump pressured Pence to overturn President Joe Biden's election victory as he presided over the ceremonial certification of the results. Pence refused, and when rioters stormed the Capitol, some chanted that they wanted to “hang Mike Pence.”"

Trump owns it.

Murdoch admitted the fraudulent election news on Fox was all fake.

Trump owns it.

Trump called dead soldiers losers. That is documented fact. 

And the left called Trump supporters deplorable

Yeah, not the same thing. Not by a long shot.

And Trump supporters who engage in election denial and insurrection ARE deplorable.

bass4funk

   I'm not on the left. Already told you that....yawn

> I doubt it

You can't prove it. I'm into co-operatives that are not left or right.

You can't prove it. I'm into co-operatives that are not left or right.

Just going by what you say and how you act.

Yeah, not the same thing. Not by a long shot. 

I disagree

And Trump supporters who engage in election denial and insurrection ARE deplorable.

Hmmm…

bass4funk

   You can't prove it. I'm into co-operatives that are not left or right.

> Just going by what you say and how you act.

You have no idea how I act or what I say other than here. You have no idea who I am.

Just make sure not to judge others so easily as you always tend to do