Prosecutors tell Trump lawyers he is target of classified docs probe: reports

If Mike Pence and Biden can have them, then Trump even more so.

law doesn’t have exceptions for being nice in returning them or only having “a few”.

if anybody actually follows the litigation thats facing Trump, yes hes in more poop than people who dont pay attention realise.

Trump org already found guilt of 17 counts of tax fraud, Trump found liable for Sexual assault and defamation, theyre the lesser of what coming Trumps way.

It look like Mark Meadows has made a deal with the DOJ and flipped on Trump LOL. Better to be on the bus than under it

its clear that someone wants see Trump out of "USA president" business...

If Mike Pence and Biden can have them, then Trump even more so. 

Exactly.

law doesn’t have exceptions for being nice in returning them or only having “a few”.

Then Biden’s days are numbered.

It look like Mark Meadows has made a deal with the DOJ and flipped on Trump LOL. Better to be on the bus than under it

Well, you don’t know the reason why he possibly flipped, you have no idea what the Feds said or threatened him with or what they have on him, you’re speculating at best.

Yep. And if he was so unpopular and easy to beat then they wouldn’t have to keep trying to disqualify him,

if he can run, he wins. That has been made clear by these actions.

Also that they need something more on trump to compare Biden to as being just a little less guilty of.

More like “Orange Man stupid enough to admit all the basic facts on camera and on tape”.

The idiot has essentially indicted himself.

And now that Mark Medows has testified under oath, possibly after agreeing to plead guilty in exchange for reduced criminal liability, (details of this have yet to be confirmed) AND the idiot was dumb enough to record himself saying that he took a still classified document, that he knew was still classified (so much for the declassification by brain wave “defense”) AND seems to have waved it around in an unclassified setting to people not cleared, this is as Andrew Weismann said “likely game over.”

And contrary to what his sycophants say, there is no equivalence between “oops, I found these. Here they are back” and found in his desk (and thus moved) during a search warrant after he had lied saying they’d been given back.

The idiot has essentially indicted himself. 

Yeah? How?

And now that Mark Medows has testified under oath, possibly after agreeing to plead guilty in exchange for reduced criminal liability, (details of this have yet to be confirmed)

Again, what did they say or do…..oh, it’s the DOJ that’s out to get Trump, I forgot.

AND the idiot was dumb enough to record himself saying that he took a still classified document, that he knew was still classified (so much for the declassification by brain wave “defense”)

So then what is Biden’s excuse? For that matter did he use bleach bit to destroy the document?

AND seems to have waved it around in an unclassified setting to people not cleared, this is as Andrew Weismann said “likely game over.”

Weismann, the Republican hating prosecutor i remember him, very vindictive individual

And contrary to what his sycophants say, there is no equivalence between “oops, I found these.

Well, what real evidence does Smith have and when will Hillary and Biden be indicted

Trump has openly acknowledged taking and storing the documents, undermining his lawyers' suggestion that he took the stash inadvertently in the confusion of a chaotic departure.

These lawyers must really love having a difficult job, hopefully they have been paid in advance.

Politicalization of DOJ never good healthy sign, so any real surprise Democracy so busy dying Globally?

Turns out World increasingly prefers true Fiduciaries and not corrupt non-transparent special interests running amuck in "Democracies", especially the Chaos US.

EFD How exactly will this play out?

He is going to be indicted (which Bass said "would never happen") then there will be a trial where the prosecution will read out the relevant statutes: the presidential records act, the espionage act, obstruction of justice. Then they will lay out the evidence. NARA politely telling him "Hey, you got some stuff, can we have it back?" Then "HEY, you need to give this back." Then "If you don't give it back we are going to make it a criminal matter." Then when they DID get some stuff back, they realized that he had not returned everything, so they issued a Subpoena. Trump did give some more stuff back but not everything and worse, he lied about it AND he moved the docs in question.

THEN he admitted all the essential facts on camera, which will definitely be played in court. The CNN interview was a confession.

In addition, there will be testimony from Mark Medows, possibly Stevie 3-chins and a host of others.

Oh, and his attorney had to testify because the Crime-Fraud exception had been reached and the attorney-client shield penetrated. So they have his testimony, his contemporaneous notes and his texts as well.

I used to think that the GA case was the easiest to get a conviction because the idiot said the crime right into the phone. BUT NOW.....

Not only does Jack Smith have a recording of Trump having a document at BEDMINSTER (how did it get there?) That was still classified, that Trump says he took, that he shows to others. AND HE KNEW HE WAS BEING RECORDED. What. An. Idiot.

This now jumps the line over the GA case as probably the easiest to get a conviction.

If it doesn't play out as you very confidently predict, will you announce to the JT crew that you were sadly misled again?

At this point, Trump really has only 2 recourses: Jury nullification and insanity.

And yes, I will admit that I got it wrong if that happens while still stating that I think he is guilty AF.

I am not in the habit of making predictions, or at least I try not to because one just never knows.

But legally, factually, and given the evidence as well as Trump's inability to keep his fat yap shut (or keep competent counsel), this is as close to a sure thing as one can get in a criminal matter.

Oh, and his former private attorney who skillfully saved him from himself during the Mueller probe AND his former AG BOTH think that he is screwed and he his going to be indicted.

Cobb says he is going to jail and he is the only attorney of any competence that Trump has ever had other than this Parlatore guy who quit in frustrations.

"Donald Trump is the target of an ongoing criminal investigation and he should step aside & put the good of the country above his candidacy," he tweeted Wednesday night.

wrong Asa, Donald Trump is the country meaning his candidacy by definition is the good of the country.

Now, if only he can get his base to pay for his legal defence. Shouldn't be hard. But the feeble raised fist really shows he knows his time is up.

trump is still free?

UchujinToday  01:34 pm JST

trump is still free?

Yes, because in order to not be free, one actually has to be convicted of a crime first.

America isn't a banana republic where political leaders use the criminal justice system to target their political opponents. At least not yet.

Though the Democrats seem to be working hard to make it one.

You can smell the fear and desperation coming out of Mar-A-Lago - and from our MAGA-faithful posters here...

Mark Meadows flips on him and cooperates with the Special Prosecutor in both the insurrection case and the stolen classified one...

Meadows was "in the room" when all the conspirators; Eastman, Giuliani, Powell, were all plotting the coup...

So Jack Smith has an "insider" at both the White House plus the previous one at Mar-A-Lago...

And you can bet there are others out there who are just waiting for their turn to cop a deal to get immunity...with names like Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka..

Illegal retention of classified materiel, obstruction of justice, interfering in an election under the RICO statute...

Bye-Don....Hello Leavenworth...

ROFL...

the clearest sign yet that prosecutors are moving closer to charging the former president, who is seeking a return to the White House in 2024

And that last part is really what this is all about. He's seeking a return to the White House, and the criminal justice system is being weaponized against him.

Anyone who doesn't see that, or doesn't want to admit it, clearly needs to reassess their thoughts on this.

And he found them and gave them back.

so thats what the law says?

Lock him up.

"I have assumed for years that I am a Target of the WEAPONIZED DOJ & FBI," Trump, who has already been indicted in a separate case, added.

Another witch hunt.

Maybe the FBI will find evidence of Russian collusion.

the clearest sign yet that prosecutors are moving closer to charging the former president, who is seeking a return to the White House in 2024

And that last part is really what this is all about. He's seeking a return to the White House, and the criminal justice system is being weaponized against him.

Actually, you have just accurately ascribed the correct feelings to the wrong group.

The group you should be ascribing this line of reasoning to the the RNC who knows that Trump is a Stone-Cold loser who will not only cost them the White House but who will also likely drag the GOP back into the minority in the House and keep them there in the Senate as well.

No, I am afraid that getting Trump as an opponent is the fondest wish of almost every Democrat as they know that he is a (as mentioned above) Stone-Cold Loser.

He lost the popular vote both elections, the last one by 7 Million.

Everything he has done since is driving people away from him, not to him.

I would go so far as to say that there is not a single person who voted for him in 16 and then didn't in 20 who is willing to go back to him.

I am speculating here but I would guess the FLOOR on his losing margin starts at 7 million.

I sometimes actually (selfishly) worry that the process will work so swiftly that he will be incarcerated before the convention allowing the RNC to pick someone who is not such a born loser.

Even Bobble-Head Ronnie and his "WOKE!" brigade would put up a better fight.

No, he is going to be indicted, tried and very likely convicted because he is guilty AF and the evidence says so, the witnesses say so, the law says so, and the Insurrectionist in Chief said so himself.

Trumps favor legally, 6-3 Supreme Court, expect they'll be weighing in at some point.

Probably best if all jailhouse lawyers here defer to the SC's upcoming 'legal' judgments.

But let's see VP Kamala Harris has to say on this matter, as she's a lawyer, though she did need to re-take A Bar exam...so likely not the sharpest 'pencil'.

Bye-Don....Hello Leavenworth..

"Trump Tower Leavenworth: Come for the monotonous flat land and "highly variable" weather. Stay because of the guard towers and the Razor Wire. Room for the whole family!"

And that last part is really what this is all about. He's seeking a return to the White House, and the criminal justice system is being weaponized against him.

It's all in a good cause. He tried sedition, you know. That meant trying to overturn his failure in a free election by means outside the law. He's only into law when it can save him. I'm sure Trump would agree that there is no higher cause than himself so if you live by that motto, you must expect the consequences when others are also out to bring you down by any means. He should be judged by lower standards than the law-abiding. Lock him up.

In the grand scheme of things, this is rather trivial. Get him for the federal crime of election interference in Georgia. "I just need you to find 11,000 votes".

He is going to be indicted (which Bass said "would never happen")

No, I said he’s not going to prison

THEN he admitted all the essential facts on camera,

Like Biden and Hillary, “what difference does it make.”

which will definitely be played in court. The CNN interview was a confession. 

It was?

Stevie 3-chins and a host of others. 

Who?

Oh, and his attorney had to testify because the Crime-Fraud exception had been reached and the attorney-client shield penetrated. So they have his testimony, his contemporaneous notes and his texts as well.

Ate we talking about the Biden family now? 

I used to think that the GA case was the easiest to get a conviction

No, the most difficult.

Not only does Jack Smith have a recording of Trump having a document at BEDMINSTER (how did it get there?) That was still classified, that Trump says he took, that he shows to others. AND HE KNEW HE WAS BEING RECORDED. What. An. Idiot. 

Ok, so you’re essentially saying that Smith will bring charges against Biden as well…possibly Hillary as well.

This now jumps the line over the GA case as probably the easiest to get a conviction. 

I doubt it.

And yes, I will admit that I got it wrong if that happens while still stating that I think he is guilty AF. 

I disagree

I am not in the habit of making predictions, or at least I try not to because one just never knows. 

True, very true…

But legally, factually, and given the evidence as well as Trump's inability to keep his fat yap shut (or keep competent counsel), this is as close to a sure thing as one can get in a criminal matter.

Even if he were to go to prison, DeSantis would pardon him, either way, short of killing Trump the man would be a thorn to the establishment.

so thats what the law says?

The says Trump is not allowed to have the documents he had, and the recordings prove he knew this. He's dead to rights.

Yep. And if he was so unpopular and easy to beat then they wouldn’t have to keep trying to disqualify him,

It doesn't disqualify he, but it certainly does prove how unfit for office he is. Imagine supporting a crook that thinks he is above the law.

He is going to be indicted (which Bass said "would never happen")

No, I said he’s not going to prison

No. That is not correct. You said that AG Garland would never indict him.

That is what you said.

Anyone who doesn't see that, or doesn't want to admit it, clearly needs to reassess their thoughts on this.

Based, you know how you feel when you watch the “pronoun police”on YouTube talking about birthing people and Floyd Mayweather fighting pro as a woman after a year of hormone therapy? Lea Thomas as a champion of women’s empowerment? That feeling of respect and support for their argument that wells up in your chest? (Your handle is Based so pretty confident I know where you stand on that…)

yeah, that’s what I think about your political victimhood narrative. Just to put in language you “understand.”

Even if he were to go to prison, DeSantis would pardon him, either way, short of killing Trump the man would be a thorn to the establishment.

Bobble Head Ronnie would have to win first, which he most likely will not because he is an unlikable jerk AND his policies are an anathema to the vast majority of the electorate.

Even if he DID win, he cannot pardon State Crimes in GA which are almost as dead-bang as these because again, THE IDIOT SAID IT ON TAPE.

Maybe the FBI will find evidence of Russian collusion.

if you read the Mueller report youd see that they indeed did find Russian interference in the 2016 election to help Trump

over 40 individuals and companies were indicted, including 6 Russians, 6 of Trumps closest allies, 4 were sent to prision. 40million in assets and money confiscated .

Trumps favor legally, 6-3 Supreme Court, expect they'll be weighing in at some point.

You mean like they did on his Big Lie/Stolen Election claims?

Or any of the too numerous times to mention that "His" SCOTUS has shown him the back of their hand?

Seems as though Don should have made the quid pro-quo a bit more obvious. Of course then he would be criminally liable as well.

Even if he were to go to prison, DeSantis would pardon him, either way, short of killing Trump the man would be a thorn to the establishment.

Trump may want to start being a little nicer to DeSantis, just in case. Not call him names like DeSanctimonious, Meatball Ron, and Puddin' Cup.

Even if he were to go to prison, DeSantis would pardon him, either way, short of killing Trump the man would be a thorn to the establishment.

I emphatically encourage Ron to run on that message.

“Hi, I’m Ron! Trump without the baggage! I may not be Trump, but fear not, I’ll pardon him!”

the difference between the DNC and RNC is the DNC understands they still need the center to win. Which is why AOC is not House Minority Leader…

Gosh! Trump looks so much worse than Hillary or Nixon, and he can still run for president again! This is so wacky!