Refugee-averse Japan welcomes Ukrainians after Russia war

His father, a lawyer and government worker, still lives in Ukraine.

Ah, so that's probably how he managed to flee Ukraine while other men his age are barred from leaving the country. Lucky for him.

Something very good from Putin's evil sphere. Hope they can recover and gain from their new experiences.

selected people as a refugee. where are the other Ukrainians???

I was going to ask how ha physically fit fighting age 24 year old got out of Ukraine when the news keeps showing men in their grey hair 40, 50 even 60 on the front lines.

But the answer was in the article:

His father, a lawyer and government worker,

I guess some are better off than others.

The Japanese ability to pat oneself on the back for almost anything they do will never fail to astound me.

What about refugees from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Myanmar etc?....Oh white people only please.....

Matt

Today 05:20 pm JST

What about refugees from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Myanmar etc?....Oh white people only please.....

Wasn't that the same in Europe, Australia, USA.

The USA has taken in well over 100,000 Ukrainian, Syrian: 13,000 Afghanistan: 1,600

Australia took is about 12,000 Syrians over several years.

It took in 18,000 Ukrainian by April 2022 and now was around 50,000

So take a guess what is the difference?

Japan is picky when picking refugee, Afghanistan that works in embassy before the fall down were rejecting after some time in Japan.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/15/national/afghanistan-refugees-lack-of-support-pressure/

" For an apparently highly-evolved species, humans do a lot of stupid things."

When the not highly evolved like Putin get into power we have trouble.

Beautiful to see! Both from the point of view of the Ukrainians - and the Japanese providing a safe haven.

Having met some Ukrainians, they are lovely people who are incredibly grateful for their host nations helping them. They long to return to their beautiful nation when it is safe and free.

M3, Antiquesaving frank open analysis, probably is correct and decisive, that Dmytro Remez, 24 was/is afforded or may I suggest able to escape the fate of many fellow Ukrainians, above whole families, women and children.

If people here want to send young Canadians, Americans British, French, Italian, Germans etc.. to fight and die then perhaps first send back this 24 year old Ukrainian and get him on the front line.

Oh right he is a "refugee". Oh and send the fully able bodied women of fighting age back also.

What on earth are you going on about?

He can do what he wants with his life, as can everyone else.

@itsonlyrocknroll

M3, Antiquesaving frank open analysis, probably is correct and decisive, that Dmytro Remez, 24 was/is afforded or may I suggest able to escape the fate of many fellow Ukrainians, above whole families, women and children.

He made the right decision. I would have done the same in his shoes. What's unforgivable is that not every young man is being given the same choice by the people funding this war.

@Bob Fosse

What on earth are you going on about?

He can do what he wants with his life, as can everyone else.

You seem to be unaware of the fact that nearly all Ukrainian men aged 18-60 are subject to conscription and barred from leaving Ukraine under martial law.

The article only mentions a single person. We don't know who the others are

No, sorry M3 , I don't believe you would be standing on that balcony, if your motherland and family was in mortal peril. let alone if that space could house venerable deserving families.

Look your conscience would prevent you from doing so.

I have read your posts over a quite considerable time.

I thought all able bodied 18-50 year olds were expected to stay and fight. Looks like Dmytro managed to get out and avoid the war. Good for him.

“ And he considers himself lucky. “

Yes, you should consider yourself lucky. VERY lucky.

I’m gonna be honest, this didn’t touch me…; focus on people whose lives are a living hell now, not these “ lottery winners “.

[ Nippon Foundation initially committed 5 billion yen to help Ukrainians, including travel costs, housing and living expenses, and has since raised the amount to 8.58 billion yen over three years.

It's among the largest donations made in reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine a year ago.

Its charity work includes fighting leprosy, disaster relief, help for people with disabilities and various scholarships, under its motto “to achieve a society in which all people support one another.” ] —

my favorite/the only interesting part of the article.

I thought all able bodied 18-50 year olds were expected to stay and fight. 

There are exceptions. One is "applicants of professional pre-higher and higher education, trainee assistants, postgraduates and doctoral students who study in full-time or dual forms of education". (see link below)

While it might be the case his dad's position helped him, I can also understand a need to get trained medical staff.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ukraine-country-policy-and-information-notes/country-policy-and-information-note-military-service-ukraine-june-2022-accessible#General_exemptions

This war is being put on hospice care,it is at it end stage,on too be given it last rites and life support,bring it too an end

@itsonlyrocknroll

No, sorry M3 , I don't believe you would be standing on that balcony, if your motherland and family was in mortal peril.

Life is precious and we only have one. The last place you'll find me is on the front dying for a line on a map that corrupt politicians can't agree on.

Like most Europeans, my own homeland has been invaded, conquered, annex, and had its borders redrawn dozens of times over the centuries but it never disappeared because most of us prefered to stay alive rather than fight to the death. The only way Ukraine risks disappearing is if an entire generation of its most talented young men are sent to their deaths.

Welcome to Japan all Ukrainians!

I wish Mr Remez and the other Ukranians good luck in Japan and thank the Japanese government and people for helping and providing safety for the "evacuees".

However Japan shouldn't be grandstanding unless they are prepared to offer permanent residency to these people in future.

“No one will live in the cities in the future. So for what? Why? Why do you do this?”

A prime example of the present generation!

Did there never see a single documentary on WW2, The Korean war, Vietnam war just to name more modern ones!?

Stalingrad ( Today Volgograd), Berlin, Dresden, St Petersburg, Seoul and countless other cities and towns in Europe, Asia flattened into unrecognizable rubble, and rebuilt over and over again.

Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, flattened bruned and rebuilt.

That is the nature of war and the history of man and city states, nation states and countries.

Fleeing from that war is the only rational decision one can make there. Would you die for any of those idiots like Putin or Selensky? Beware! They ruin their countries and populations as well as every other country or economy that is nearby, involved or affected. For what? Yes, that’s a good question, one of the rare kind that only complete idiots can answer.

Hopefully Japan will try to accept more. Ukrainians are the refugees you want. Many Canadians are of Ukrainian background in Western Canada from the 19th century, so we're happy to take in more. In the last year of the war 167,000 so far have arrived out of 560,000 approved. After Ukraine, Russia, Canada has the third largest diaspora in the world

After Ukraine, Russia, Canada has the third largest diaspora in the world

True and so powerful that we are given long needed and long awaited equipment the Canadian military needs and taking it away to give to Ukraine, leaving Canada military to use Pickup trucks, so powerful that they shut down the 1980s investigation into war criminals that escaped into Canada from Nazi SS and concentration camp guard Ukrainian units and blocked the deportation of others.

Beware having too many of certain groups that refuse to leave their old world way behind and bring their historical hatred with them, ask Poles in Canada.

I bet someone intelligent like him has already figured out Japan is not a forever place to live.

@Antiquesaving

If you fear everyone then you'll accept nobody. Given the war, they have filtered out as many as possible as some 800k applied, 560k were accepted, and 167k so far have arrived.

@Sven Asai

Putin or Selensky

How can You put them both in the same sentence? Ridiculous false equivalence

You seem to be unaware of the fact that nearly all Ukrainian men aged 18-60 are subject to conscription and barred from leaving Ukraine under martial law.

You seem to be unaware of what ‘nearly’ means.

Bob Fosse

Today 09:32 pm JST

You seem to be unaware of the fact that nearly all Ukrainian men aged 18-60 are subject to conscription and barred from leaving Ukraine under martial law.

> You seem to be unaware of what ‘nearly’ means.

Yes we know what it means, the same as in the USA UK Canada, etc..

Vietnam not my rich and powerful son.

Afghanistan not my rich and powerful connected family's children.

Same for Zelensky's friends and government powerful.

Funny how that is, even if they are in the military they get assigned far from the fighting.

Not everyone avoiding war is a rich son. Some people are just anti war.

If you feel strongly about fighting, go do it and let others be.

Antique,who want to live in country,where their is no future in Ukraine,I am American I choose to stay and fight for what I believe is right in America

Same for Zelensky's friends and government powerful.

Predictably, you missed out Putin / Russia from that little rant about something that has been a thing in every war ever.

ClippetyClop

Today 09:49 pm JST

Same for Zelensky's friends and government powerful.

> Predictably, you missed out Putin / Russia from that little rant about something that has been a thing in every war ever.

Predictably you are not aware that this is about a Ukrainian refugee.

When the son o a Putin crony shows up as a refugee with special status will then have something to say.

Poor clipped clop got clipped

Remez, 24, a fledgling medical doctor

This man is needed on the battle field! At least, it we are to trust what Zelensky is saying.

Due to the legal regime of martial law, the men who are the citizens of Ukraine, aged 18 to 60, are restricted from leaving Ukraine.

Exceptions provided by law may apply to those who have:

   deportation certificate and notification of enlistment in special military registration, or

   conclusion of the military medical commission on disability.

In addition, the restrictions do not apply to people:

who has three or more children under the age of 18, or who are raising a child (children) under the age of 18 on their own, or who has a child with a disability.

As well as those who are: adoptive parents, caretakers, or whose close relatives died or went missing during the anti-terrorist operation.

Source: State Border Guard Service of Ukraine.

"Refugee-averse Japan..." Given the opportunity to escape from poverty and/or war, millions upon millions of people would attempt to go to (relatively) rich and peaceful countries. But to paraphrase Dirty Harry, those countries have to know their limitations. Japan clearly does not wish to wind up like "border-security-averse" America.

Exceptions provided by law may apply to those who have:

-applicants for professional higher and higher education, trainee assistants, graduate students and doctoral students studying abroad in full-time or dual forms of education (students, listeners).

Source: State Border Guard Service of Ukraine.

Dmytro Remez is a student at Juntendo University

No one going to mention the poor mathematics ?

Being highly educated and skilled has its privileges.

I doubt that but it seems I do as you seem to have forgotten.

I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

I have seen war first hand and if he had guts or care for his country he would put his medical knowledge on the front line, medics are the best chance of survival for a soldier again first hand knowledge.

I’ve also seen war first hand and don’t recommend anyone go anywhere near it. But that’s his choice to make.

If he doesn’t want to be a combat medic on the front line that is also his choice. Your criticism of him for not doing so is irrelevant.

Why don’t you go volunteer if you feel so strongly about it? Show your ‘guts’.

Why don’t you go volunteer if you feel so strongly about it? Show your ‘guts’.

One, not my country so why should I?

Two: I am way way way too old, today's medics would be treating me and not for being wounded but age related problems.

ジョージFeb. 26  07:25 pm JST

focus on people whose lives are a living hell now

“ Aren't there such articles most days, if not every day? “

Fair enough…; just saying that, imho, this article doesn’t really fit into the top story category and that we shouldn’t really worry about/wish good luck to this young, healthy man/people like him…; he’s living in a clean room… he has everything he needs… he’s enjoying the safety and the culture of this country… he’s studying to be a doctor… and his wife is also in Japan…; meanwhile, there’s millions and millions of Ukrainians stuck in Ukraine and millions more living in horrible conditions because they had to leave their home country…; I’m gonna wish good luck to those people.

If in the same way the Japanese government would help its own people, Japan would be much better..

There are around 3,000,000 refugees from the Ukraine in Russia.

People need reminding they aren't refugees, they are "evacuees." The assumption is they are supposed to wait it out until Ukraine is safe again for them to leave Japan.

That's wholly different from say, the millions of Syrians, Afghans, Iraqis that the West accepts as "refugees," who are allowed to put down roots and build families and communities in their adopted homeland. Japan will never, ever allow that.

Japan is not a country noted for taking in a lot of refugees. That is a simple fact. Just look at the numbers.

Refugee-averse Japan welcomes Ukrainians after Russia war

Yes, the number of people in Japan who fall for the non-stop drizzle of media propaganda that evil Putin attacked innocent little Ukraine out of nowhere without any reason is amazing.

I have yet to see a Japanese mainstream program that explains the history of Ukraine, the Bucharest declaration, the Maidan coup d´etat, the Minsk agreements and who broke them. With zero background, you can of course twist any story any way you like.

M3, your logic and reasoning is the very meaning, heartfelt honesty is why you would remain, ok you are not a professional soldier.

However if Ukrainian Mothers with young children could stand on that balcony you would without question.

Dmytro Remez managed to jump the queue, how he managed to do so, is a matter for conjecture.

Women and children first,always.

Technically, Ukrainians aren’t even categorized as “refugees,” but called “evacuees.” The system for accepting Ukrainians works without Japan having to change its overall refugee policy.

Love Japan for their flexibility!

I hope all those evacuees will be ready to go back home after the war is finished.

Anyway Japanese evacuees program doesn't guarantee the path to residency.