S Korea, U.S., Japan seek ban on N Koreans working abroad

Pointless, there are many North Koreans working in Poland, Russia, China etc.

Are they going to close the pachinko parlours then?

By this logic we should also ban Americans from working abroad too, no?

South Korea, the U.S. and Japan called for stronger international support of efforts to ban North Korea from sending workers abroad and curb the North’s cybercrimes as a way to block the country’s means to fund its nuclear program.

Great. But a couple of things first.

First, the Chinese also commit cybercrimes as well as other crimes against the west? Are we going to stop them from sending spies abroad and closing their spy bases? Particularly their Confucious Institutes?

Second, most N Koreans enter Japan on either SPR or Japanese passports, because the N Korean passport is not recognized in Japan, so how will that work?

Third, Bertie beat me to it.

Are they going to close the pachinko parlours then?

Exactly. If they don't do THAT everything else will be pointless.

3 Amigos

“Are they going to close the pachinko parlours then?”

Many pachinko parlors in Japan are run by ethnic North Koreans and a large amount of proceeds from this addictive gambling has been sent to North Korea to finance their missile launchings.

Why?

Good luck with getting China and Russia to cooperate!

Meiyouwenti

“Are they going to close the pachinko parlours then?”

> Many pachinko parlors in Japan are run by ethnic North Koreans and a large amount of proceeds from this addictive gambling has been sent to North Korea to finance their missile launchings.

Japanese Koreans, not North Koreans.

kurisupisuToday  07:34 am JST

By this logic we should also ban Americans from working abroad too, no?

Why? Is the United States under sanction from the UN?

Some people should be banned for posting dumb things.

Good idea - but obviously despot states such as fascist Russia and Communist China thumb their noses at every international convention.

Not all North Korean overseas workers are contributing to Kim's nuclear program.

No, but every amount of money they repatriate goes toward the despicable Kim regime. These workers are one of the biggest export sources of the despot government.

Uh oh. Another sack o cash hit for the Moonie human traffic rings.

Wouldn't this be a chance to change DPRK from the inside? If you just put a lid on them, they will only hear what the Great Leader says.

Meiyouwenti I wonder why you got some thumbs down on your comment as it's a fact that many Pachinko parlors are owned by N Koreans & the profits are sent back to NK. Possibly they just don't know the facts.

jinjapan

Meiyouwenti I wonder why you got some thumbs down on your comment as it's a fact that many Pachinko parlors are owned by N Koreans & the profits are sent back to NK. Possibly they just don't know the facts.

You can provide a link showing the majority of Pachinko Parlors are owned by North Koreans and not Japanese Koreans?

Close to one of our properties in Chiba, there is a North Korean school, it's been there for many years, lovely people work there. Since we're banning rogue states, maybe the US should be on the list.

I would do exactly the opposite, I would encourage N Koreans to leave their country and drain it from it's #1 valuable resources ( PEOPLE ). Train and Educate them then send them back for Mr. Kim to deal with. Starving them did NOT work for over 70 years so far, in fact it did the opposite.

@BertieWooster: That's a bit ignorant. I've got no time for it either - but the 'North ' Koreans who do indeed run a lot of the Pachinko business here are mostly relatives of what's left of the 'Stateless' Koreans left behind after WW2. More effort should be made to prevent them from sending money to North Korea, I agree. Before you lecture me on why I'm wrong , I was married before to a girl from such a family (the family later became actively involved in Mindan, so aligned with the South) Most of them are long since naturalized Japanese, and yes no denying there is a lot of illicit activity taking place - But you have to ask who caused that in the first place.

@Andy - That's one of the ridiculous statements you have ever written. Are you sure it's not your properties you are writing about whilst typing direct from Pyongyang?

Oh that funky multi person handshake thing again. Always hilarious, need like 5 more people then it’s awesome.

If Japan is serious, it must take down ChongRyon first and don't even let them go underground.

South Korea, the U.S. and Japan called for stronger international support of efforts to ban North Korea from sending workers abroad and curb the North’s cybercrimes

And just 2 stories down is an article about 19 Japanese cyber-criminals in Cambodia.

Pot, kettle, black?

South Korea, the U.S. and Japan called for stronger international support of efforts to ban North Korea from sending workers abroad and curb the North’s cybercrimes as a way to block the country’s means to fund its nuclear program.

All of North Korea is not under arrest. You cant very well stop an entire nation from having people in other countries. Ban them from your own country if you feel you must, but it is a matter for individual nations to decide.

Curbing NK cybercrimes is fair enough, but how about target all cybercrimes that aim to swindle money from anyone conducted by anyone? That should catch NK criminals along with others.

I am all for encouraging NK to ditch nukes and to behave normally and in an acceptable manner, but you cant just treat all its citizens as criminals without charge or conviction. That would make you as bad as the NK regime itself, or worse.

The vast majority of North Koreans are not allowed to leave, otherwise, they would be already gone.

100,000 North Koreans working in factories, construction sites, logging industries and other places worldwide.

Have to put a stop to this. There are only two ways the North Korean people can improve the quality of life and join in a free sovereign North Korea or unified Korea.

Rise up with a revolution and overthrow the government.

Or war where government is utterly decimated.

Nationalize pachinko already and you cut off one of the North’s main revenue raising streams. This is money that can then be used for improving the lives of people here .

Since we're banning rogue states, maybe the US should be on the list.

I good question no one is taking seriously. Most Americans are nice people, so I would personally not endorse it.

The big question here is, what is Japan doing in this picture? We need to provoke North Korea to start the Korean peninsula war. We need to provoke PRC to invade Taiwan. But, a war in Japan is not on the agenda.

Japanese Koreans, not North Koreans.

Nope. Japanese Koreans are those ex-Japanese who naturalized to Korea(s). There are only

South Koreans, North Koreans, and Korean Japanese in Japan.

@BertieWooster: That's a bit ignorant. I've got no time for it either - but the 'North ' Koreans who do indeed run a lot of the Pachinko business here are mostly relatives of what's left of the 'Stateless' Koreans left behind after WW2.

Except those like a chair-man of Maruhan who smuggled himself into Japan after WW2.

Why they didn't get on board Man-Gyong-Bon Ship during the homecoming-campaign?

More effort should be made to prevent them from sending money to North Korea, I agree. Before you lecture me on why I'm wrong , I was married before to a girl from such a family (the family later became actively involved in Mindan, so aligned with the South) Most of them are long since naturalized Japanese, and yes no denying there is a lot of illicit activity taking place - But you have to ask who caused that in the first place.

They themselves did . what else? or Syngman Rhee did?

It is long overdue. Japan should officially abolish the weirdest SPR and treat all foreigners equally . It’s been done just enough for it's history and need to start touch upon ChongRyon

Good idea! also, do not allow any money transfers to DPRK from any financial organization or any personal accounts from anyone.

@kennyG: You need to read up on History. Especially the Koreans left behind here after WW2 and the status they afforded by Japan. Also, read up about the homecoming campaigns properly.

theResidentToday  07:02 pm JST

@kennyG: You need to read up on History. Especially the Koreans left behind here after WW2 and the status they afforded by Japan. Also, read up about the homecoming campaigns properly.

No you need to dump elementary school level or Korean fantasy history books. The status they afforded was driven more by then-SK president by his official and direct demand such that " Do not treat them as Japanese"

and yet, rejected accepting returners from Japan.

You seem not know even a piece of real history.

And neither do you kennyG.

This type of approach has been used for seventy years, and what are the results?- a rogue state with nuclear weapons...do you think it is a good idea to further pressure and corner an upset person who has weapons? What type of result do you realistically expect to come about by doing so? We have seen what happens in the US with the endless round of mass shootings. People invariably simply blame the shooter as unbalanced, isolated, having an axe to grind, etc. but they did not grow up in a vacuum and are a product of their environment.

 You need to read up on History. Especially the Koreans left behind here after WW2 and the status they afforded by Japan. Also, read up about the homecoming campaigns properly.

The concrete HISTOTRY to be read up should be presented for us all rather than personal experience voiced up by individuals . YES?

You need to read up on History. Especially the Koreans left behind here after WW2 and the status they afforded by Japan. Also, read up about the homecoming campaigns properly.

Before homecoming campaigns, they had unmissable chance to return home (Yes, the ships not heading to North but to South of the peninsula, Pusang port) , which decreased Korean population in Japan from roughly 2million+ to 0.6million, organized by GHQ and then-Japanese government which bore the cost of these transportations.

So disgusting, those 1st generation Zainichi who had decided to stay in Japan learned to be orchestrated and equivocally said " We were forcibly conscripted to come here" under the instruction by ChongRyon to consolidate fake victimhoods-narrative to secure their status amid post-war chaos in Japan, just like Chong Dae Hyup orchestrated and coached THEM by fake narratives.