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Trump says he has been notified he is target in 2020 election probe

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By Sarah N. Lynch and Jacqueline Thomsen

Former U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he had received a letter from Special Counsel Jack Smith stating that he is a target of a grand jury investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election result.

A letter would represent the clearest sign to date that Trump, front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, may face federal criminal charges around his efforts to remain in power after losing the election to Joe Biden.

Officials have testified that during his final months in office, Trump pressured them with unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud. His supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol in a Jan 6, 2021, bid to stop Congress from certifying Biden's win.

Smith "sent a letter (again, it was Sunday night!) stating that I am a TARGET of the January 6th Grand Jury investigation," Trump wrote on his Truth Social media site.

His attorneys could not immediately be reached for comment.

NBC News, citing law enforcement sources, confirmed that Smith had sent the letter. A spokesperson for Smith's office declined to comment.

Trump's legal woes have so far failed to dent his efforts to win the 2024 Republican nomination. His lead in opinion polls has widened in recent months and his Republican rivals have largely supported him in the face of several criminal probes.

Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor, said receiving a target letter means the individual should "presume that you're going to get indicted, unless you give us a damn good reason why we shouldn't."

Smith has already brought criminal charges against Trump in a separate federal case alleging he unlawfully retained national security documents after leaving office in 2021 and conspired to obstruct efforts to retrieve them. Trump has pleaded not guilty.

According to a court filing, Smith sent a target letter to Trump's lawyers in that case on May 19, roughly three weeks before he filed charges.

Defense attorneys and federal prosecutors were due to make their first appearance in Florida later on Tuesday before U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who is presiding over that case.

As part of the 2020 election investigation, a grand jury at the federal courthouse in Washington, D.C., has heard testimony from high-profile former Trump administration officials, ex-White House attorney Pat Cipollone and Trump's then-Vice President Mike Pence.

Most recently, Trump's former attorney Rudy Giuliani was interviewed by investigators from Smith's office.

In his Truth Social post, Trump said Smith's office had given him "a very short 4 days" to appear before the grand jury in the probe.

In federal investigations, targets who are not called to testify before a grand jury or who do not make such a request are sometimes provided an opportunity to do so before prosecutors seek an indictment.

In the Jan 6, 2021, rampage at the Capitol, Trump's supporters used weapons including chemical sprays and riot shields to attack police and break into the building, forcing lawmakers who were in the process of certifying the results of the 2020 election to flee for their lives.

The attack came shortly after Trump told supporters in an incendiary speech near the White House to march on the Capitol and "fight like hell" to "stop the steal" of the election.

More than 1,000 people have been charged with crimes connected with the riot, including some who have been convicted of seditious conspiracy.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Trump's leading rival for the Republican nomination, said Trump should have "come out more forcefully" to deter the Jan. 6 attack, but questioned whether that should lead to criminal charges.

"We don't want to be in a situation where, you know, you don’t have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail. And that unfortunately is what we’re seeing now," he said at a campaign stop in South Carolina.

Trump is the first former president ever to be indicted.

In addition to the charges in the classified documents case, Trump faces New York state criminal charges accusing him of falsifying business records concerning a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels to buy her silence before the 2016 election about a sexual encounter she has confirmed but he denies.

He has pleaded not guilty in that case as well.

On Monday, the Georgia Supreme Court rejected a bid by Trump to block a state investigation into whether he and his allies illegally attempted to meddle with Georgia's 2020 election.

Among actions being investigated was Trump's phone call urging a top election official to "find" enough votes to overturn Biden's statewide victory.

Republican strategist Matt Dole said any indictment would likely help Trump with fundraising but could deter some moderate Republicans and hinder his chances in the general election.

"I do think that it gives soft Trump supporters pause and reason to look elsewhere for a candidate with Trump's populism, but less of the circus - someone like Ron DeSantis," Dole said.

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Former U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he had received a letter from Special Counsel Jack Smith stating that he is a target of a grand jury investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election result.

The top online news feeds are basically wall to wall Trump investigations, charges, legal motions.

If you believe the old adage "There is no such thing as bad publicity" , Trump is dominating the 2024 Presidential election campaign cycle.

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What a loser.

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Good news coming as sweet and clear as moonlight through the pines.

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Would you please pass the indicted my rear for election interference.

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Wah! This traitor has made unprecedented history with his crimes. He MUST be punished!!!!!

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The reckoning cometh!

Sorry Stupid Voldemort, you don’t get to try to overthrow American Democracy and then waltz away as if nothing happened just because you suck at insurrection as much as you did at actual governing.

Nope, as I said the day I watched you rile up the goobers, set them loose and then go silent for 187 minutes, there WILL be a reckoning.

Oh yes, there will be a reckoning.

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Actually, Trump, this is GREAT news for the country -- and surprisingly long in coming. Democracy has been dependent upon the peaceful transition in power; his refusal and active steps to subvert it warrant investigation, likely indictment, trial and probable conviction. Each state should also invoke the 14th Amendment and bar him from the ballot at all.

And to think that He’s the GOP front runner shows who they really are! I’d be so embarrassed if I were running and he was in the lead! I guess they don’t support LAW AND ORDER after all?

But, remember evidence doesn't matter to the Cult45 members, most of those folks live in alternate universes as we have seen on camera again and again.

It is comical that the working-class republicans would think a trust fund kid billionaire would care about their financial or social interest. Common sense has failed those supporters.

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What a loser.

really? Have seen his house. Houses.

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Wah! This traitor has made unprecedented history with his crimes.

What crimes? But I will say, the fear the Dems have of this guy for 12 years is unprecedented.

He MUST be punished!!!!!

Why??

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really? Have seen his house. Houses.

‘The big house’ doesn’t have a cola button.

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Among actions being investigated was Trump's phone call urging a top election official to "find" enough votes to overturn Biden's statewide victory.

Now we are getting into the more serious cases.

Subverting democracy to stay in power, if it had worked, would have been a tragedy for America.

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Subverting democracy to stay in power, if it had worked, would have been a tragedy for America.

Subverting democracy? In that case, the Dems really have a lot to look forward to in two years. Like Jesse Jackson once said, “keep hope alive.”

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bass4funk

Wah! This traitor has made unprecedented history with his crimes.

What crimes?

We'll find out soon enough, but subverting democracy is the theme.

But I will say, the fear the Dems have of this guy for 12 years is unprecedented.

The Dems don't fear Trump.

He MUST be punished!!!!!

Why??

Crimes!

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The Losers will still vote for The Head Loser, but this will pull more independents away from ever considering it.

But the losers vote for him, because of the elephant in the room they don't want to talk about; Republicans can't win elections anymore because the party has turned far-right extreme. They all know that the versions of Trump Lite can't win, because they aren't Trump enough, and while Trump has never won a popular vote yet (unlike Hillary, Biden and Obama mind you), he has at least won the electoral college once. So he's their hail Mary. He probably can't win, but the rest of them definitely cannot. So they continue to support him, because Libs. Oh, and Hunter Biden's Laptop of course.

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What crimes?

See, they actually outline them in the indictments.

Just like the Jan 6th hearings though, you people are too afraid to actually look, because then you'd have to address the facts of the matter, rather than just bleating rhetoric like 'what crimes?'.

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"I do think that it gives soft Trump supporters pause and reason to look elsewhere for a candidate with Trump's populism, but less of the circus - someone like Ron DeSantis," Dole said.

Lol. desantis is the choice for those who want less of the circus?

The Dems don’t even have to try, just point at the alternative. Just like last time.

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See, they actually outline them in the indictments.

The expired ran out statute of limitation misdemeanors, wash, rinse and regurgitate them into felonies, yeah, we heard.

Just like the Jan 6th hearings though, you people are too afraid to actually look, because then you'd have to address the facts of the matter, rather than just bleating rhetoric like 'what crimes?'.

ROFL

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The expired ran out statute of limitation misdemeanors, wash, rinse and regurgitate them into felonies, yeah, we heard.

Then why did the judges accept them? Is it a conspiracy, or are these judges acting illegal of their own accord? What is your theory?

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What is also great:

"This means that Trump will be indicted in the January 6th investigation," former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti tweeted about the target letter. "This indictment will likely be brought in D.C. federal court, which means that the importance of Judge Aileen Cannon's rulings in the Mar-a-Lago case are diminished." MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin agreed that the implication of the likely indictment in D.C. is that even "if Cannon caves to Trump's demands not to set ANY trial date, she now can't single-handedly prevent a federal trial before Election Day. The federal judges in DC have handled [hundreds] of 1/6 cases rapidly—and his should be no exception."

Experts: Jack Smith’s latest move means Trump can’t use Judge Cannon to prevent pre-election trial

https://www.yahoo.com/news/experts-jack-smith-latest-move-181707108.html

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No slow walking this case to push back the reckoning.

Statute of limitations, lol.

Yeah, I’m sure the DOJ never thought of that one.

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Who flipped? My guess is Rudy.

He wouldn’t last a day in prison sober.

Queen for a day Rudy probably want to be a freeman and not a prison block b for life.

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Who flipped? My guess is Rudy.

Apparently he wasn't served with a notification that he is a target. Indicating he's not. How could ol' hair-dye Rudy not be indicted if Trump is, unless he flipped?

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If Elmer Stuart Rhodes was good for 18 years (being appealed for being too low), And Proud boi Enrique is about the same, how much time Is Emperor Vagi-waddle looking at for trying to overthrow an election through a violent insurrection?

ADX Florence (AKA “Supermax”) has plenty of space now that Ted Kazinski is dead. So no worries about the safety of his protective detail. 23 hours a day in a poured concrete cell….

They can just sit in the guard shack playing Hearts (or spades or whatever) day-in day-out until he gorks -out in his cell.

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Realistically I don't see them ever putting Trump in a jail, even if he's found guilty of everything. How would that work with secret security detail? I suspect they would give him some kind of house arrest.

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Michigan AG also just dropped the Hammer on 16 fake electors as well with other states to follow.

Good.

This is what you get for trying to help a narcissistic sociopath try to overturn a free and fair election.

That Stupid Voldemort sucked at treason is irrelevant.

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All his own doing.

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Realistically I don't see them ever putting Trump in a jail, even if he's found guilty of everything. How would that work with secret security detail? I

I politely disagree. The rule of law and fairness and the gravity of the charges he will be convicted if demand it.

As for safety, his detail’s biggest risk will be death from boredom.

At Supermax, inmates spend 23 hours a day in their cells and move in singles only and even then shackled at the wrists and ankles.

Nobody is getting to Don the con. He will be perfectly safe (physically anyway) and so will his detail.

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EFD

Michigan AG also just dropped the Hammer on 16 fake electors as well with other states to follow.

Yup. This is just the start...

Time to break out the popcorn.

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While Trump clearly tried to overthrow am election that he lost, putting together the evidence is more challenging. And it needs to be more than a phone call to Georgia.

There must be evidence linking him clearly to either efforts to encourage a riot on January 6th or the fake elector scheme.

If either, he's toast. Biden might well pardon him, but I think he needs to go and live abroad.

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It is strange and unfair that the people who supported Trump on January 6th are going to prison for the attempted overthrow of the government, yet the primary instigator (Trump) is still running around with diarrhea of the mouth as if he did nothing wrong.

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All his own doing.

Yeah, how dare he run against the Washington establishment!

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Yeah, how dare he

conspire and participate in an effort to overturn the results a free and fair election that he objectively lost via a violent insurrection.

There you go. fixed it for you.

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Yeah, how dare he run against the Washington establishment!

Trump lost already against Biden, why would the establishment fear him?

Right wingers are always like 'the fake news media thinks I can win'. Trump says it about Biden, DeSantis says it about Trump, Santos says it about humanity.

In the meantime, why do you think that these judges are letting these charges stand Bass? Multiple judges at that - is it a conspiracy? Or is Trump just extremely lucky in only finding judges who are loose cannons set at destroying democracy? And has he just had the bad luck to get stuck with the only judges out there like this, or do you think there are lots of them?

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Yeah, how dare he run against the Washington establishment!

That could be his defence angle. I did crimes because of the swamp! I thought the only way to beat them was to be even bigglier and swampier.

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conspire and participate in an effort to overturn the results a free and fair election that he objectively lost via a violent insurrection.

Then you think we should overlook the Dems denying the 2016 election as legitimate and let’s not forget for them to undo a duly elected election, basically telling the electorate, we don’t care what you think.

Well, there you go. fixed it for you

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Then you think we should overlook the Dems denying the 2016 election as legitimate

No, we just pointed out how the people didn't actually want Trump, as would happen in a true democracy where the majority wins, and that he only won because of a messed up system in America. But he rightfully won within that messed up system. And that messed up system is legal.

Trying to overthrow your democracy with a coup on the other hand...

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Then you think we should overlook the Dems denying the 2016 election as legitimate

Nowhere in the same universe of comparison. Absolutely nowhere near.

But if you think there’s a case for it take it to the judge.

Then of course Dems could always just say “but what about 45” and your whole argument would crumble because as you often seem to think, pointing to another alleged crime is apparently grounds for dismissing current investigations.

But of course, as those with even just a passing knowledge of legal matters could attest, it isn’t.

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bass4funk

   All his own doing.

> Yeah, how dare he run against the Washington establishment!

Far more serious than that. Trump tried to overthrow the Constitution and the legal handover of power. He asked Pence to stop the procedure.

It was a violent insurrection. Many rioters and looters have received serious prison time.

Dems denying the 2016 election. They didn't prevent the handover of power or storm the Capitol Building.

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No, we just pointed out how the people didn't actually want Trump,

Tell that to half of the nation.

as would happen in a true democracy where the majority wins, and that he only won because of a messed up system in America.

Naw, we are a constitutional republic, we do have real democracy that’s the reason why someone like Obama could become President.

But he rightfully won within that messed up system. And that messed up system is legal.

Well, as someone who is not American, thank you for your opinion.

Trying to overthrow your democracy with a coup on the other hand...

But it was ok for the Dems to undermine a sitting President? Absolute silence.

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The pattern is clear...

Every time Trump is either the target of an investigation or notified he will be indicted, he is always first to announce it - always before the official public release...

And the reason is clear - so he can beg for more money...

And showing how deluded and programmed MAGA-world is, they give it to him....even with all the evidence that Trump uses their money for his personal lawyers, paying his daughter-in-law for speeches, and for Melania's fashion coordinator...

Trump has played them for suckers since 2016 - and he'll continue to play them when he sitting in a cell at Leavenworth...

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No, we just pointed out how the people didn't actually want Trump,

Tell that to half of the nation.

Less than half - Hillary was the one who took more than half the nations vote.

Naw, we are a constitutional republic, we do have real democracy

I will agree, you do have a real democracy. But in a true democracy, the person who wins the largest percentage of the vote wins. America has a form of democracy, but it's not a true democracy.

But it was ok for the Dems to undermine a sitting President?

How is pointing out that the people didn't want him undermining him? Should people who voiced that speech be silenced by the government? Should they have their freedoms removed for pointing out that less people wanted Trump than wanted Hillary?

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Trump says he has been notified he is target in 2020 election

Trump started no wars. Of course the deep state will block his chances to be president again. Long live Biden the war monger.

Invalid CSRF

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Trump started no wars. Of course the deep state will block his chances to be president again. Long live Biden the war monger.

As someone who has supported China's proxy war in Ukraine since day one, do you think that your comments on how things are in America should be taken at face value?

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Far more serious than that. Trump tried to overthrow the Constitution and the legal handover of power. He asked Pence to stop the procedure.

Like the Dems tried to undermine his Presidency, be consistent now.

It was a violent insurrection. Many rioters and looters have received serious prison time.

it was an insult to the American voter that the Dems secretly tried to bury this guy.

Dems denying the 2016 election. They didn't prevent the handover of power or storm the Capitol Building.

Ok, so screw the American voter then. Again, as. Non-American, thank you for your opinionated outlook.

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Like the Dems tried to undermine his Presidency

What does 'undermining' his presidency mean?

It doesn't have any legal meaning, so it's essentially meaninless to anyone but snowflakes.

So what does it mean?

it was an insult to the American voter that the Dems secretly tried to bury this guy.

By pointing out that Americans never liked him? Why so scared of the truth bruh?

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After all these years of "Groundhog Days" of daily headlines I feel my head is going to explode just seeing and hearing the daily drip of DT from MSM. I'm sure I'm not the only one; there must be millions of others who now feel sick to death of him and his crime family. Jack Smith is the only one who can put us out of our misery, but will the cure come in time?

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bass4funk

Ok, so screw the American voter then. Again, as. Non-American, thank you for your opinionated outlook.

Just like your own opinionated outlook.

There was a democratic free and fair election which Biden won by a historical margin. The highest in history. I understand how much pain it has caused you but those are the real facts even if you find it impossible to accept. Not accepting the truth does not automatically make the facts incorrect. Since the 2020 elections you have been unable to post a single comment showing the facts were wrong. Just your opinions.

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As part of the 2020 election investigation, a grand jury at the federal courthouse in Washington, D.C., has heard testimony from high-profile former Trump administration officials, ex-White House attorney Pat Cipollone and Trump's then-Vice President Mike Pence. Most recently, Trump's former attorney Rudy Giuliani was interviewed by investigators from Smith's office.

As I mentioned yesterday, it's clear Rudy has looked at the evidence, concluded he's in real danger of going to jail, and has opened up his "insurance policy" and is cooperating with Smith, i.e., he's thrown Trump under the bus...in MAGA-world speak - a "rat"...

Yet our MAGA-friends here all defend Rudy, even as he is diming out Trump and helping Smith send him to Leavenworth....

Just like they defend their rockstar DeSantis who said Trump failed to "drain the swamp" instead "filling it", failed to fulfill his promise the build "the wall" and have Mexico pay for it, added $8 trillion to the national debt failing on his promise to eliminate it, and failed to lead and turning over the COVID response to Dr Fauci.

Strange place this MAGA-world...

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bass4funk

   No, we just pointed out how the people didn't actually want Trump,

> Tell that to half of the nation.

Half the nation did not vote for Trump nor do half of the nation support Trump.

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What does 'undermining' his presidency mean?

Using the FISA courts to drum up a salacious dossier to spy on a sitting President would be for starters.

It doesn't have any legal meaning, so it's essentially meaninless to anyone but snowflakes.

Neither does the Dems outrage.

By pointing out that Americans never liked him?

Then he wouldn't be a continued threat and rising in the polls, doesn't happen if you're a hated man.

Why so scared of the truth bruh?

Bruh? Anyway...lol

Half the nation did not vote for Trump

Half of the nation did though.

nor do half of the nation support Trump

Yeah, the Dems said so much, they said Trump will be impeached, locked up, washed up etc.

Again, I appreciate all outsiders' outlook, interesting.

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Demonizing Donald Trump is politically counter productive.

Whatever Trump is guilty of, rightly or wrongly to be perceived in locking Trump up instead of fighting him fair and square at the ballot box will just make Trump politically stronger.

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Whatever Trump is guilty of, rightly or wrongly to be perceived in locking Trump up instead of fighting him fair and square at the ballot box will just make Trump politically stronger.

So should they just let him off? Is that what you figure?

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Using the FISA courts to drum up a salacious dossier to spy on a sitting President would be for starters.

Then why didn't Durham charge anyone? I guess Trump was too weak to play the game and get Durham to do his bidding.

Don't you want a strong president?

Half of the nation did though.

No, that has never happened.

He's never even got more than 1/6 of America to vote for him for that matter.

Yeah, the Dems said so much, they said Trump will be impeached

Mr. Impeached twice as president (and twice since)?

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FizzBit

Trump says he has been notified he is target in 2020 election

Trump started no wars.

He was frighteningly close to starting a war.

Of course the deep state will block his chances to be president again. Long live Biden the war monger.

Biden has started no wars.

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So should they just let him off? Is that what you figure?

Well, the Dems will do what they do and the GOP will do what they do, Dems say, the GOP has nothing and the GOP say the Dems have nothing, just let it all play out, but neither side is giving an inch.

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Well, the Dems will do what they do

The Dems aren't doing anything, Grand Juries are. Do you think the grand jurists are conspiring against Trump? Is it a conspiracy? Is Biden personally involved in that conspiracy, and if so, how do you think he is communicating with the Jurists to tell them what to do? And who else is involved in this conspiracy with the grand jurists - is Aileen Cannon also involved?

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The case for Trump’s low cognition rubes

See Don crime.

Crime, Don Crime!

Crime crime crime.

See Don burn.

Burn Don Burn!

Burn burn burn.

Isnt it fun?

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Then why didn't Durham charge anyone?

Look who his boss is.

I guess Trump was too weak to play the game and get Durham to do his bidding.

Don't you want a strong president?

Yes, absolutely, and that's why I'm voting for him again..

No, that has never happened.

Yes, it did, if not, Trump wouldn't be where he's at, he would be where Pence is at. Now there's someone no one wants.

He's never even got more than 1/6 of America to vote for him for that matter. 

Ok, you can believe that if you want, no problem with that.

Mr. Impeached twice as president (and twice since)?

And acquitted twice as well.

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On a more serious note,

Who is stupid enough to think that Jack Smith wouldn’t have all the t’s crossed and all the i’s dotted?

There is no chance. None. Zero.

He has Trump dead to rights.

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The destruction of the Republican Party begun in 2016 is about to reach its conclusion...

Trump is facing four extremely serious criminal trials, with mountains of evidence and multiple former close associates turning against him...

He can't win the 2024 Repub nomination but he'll continue the effort to grift every last penny from the MAGA-faithful...

And then when someone else is nominated, he'll revert to the same old playbook he used in 2020 and in 2016 when he lost in Iowa....rather than admit defeat, he'll stamp his feet and scream "rigged"....

He'll accuse the Repub party of fraud....of rigging the outcome...of cheating him out of the nomination...

The MAGA base will then revolt and refuse to support the Repub nominee....

And with that the Repub party will collapse, splitting into its two MAGA and establishment factions, both savaging one another, neither able to gain a majority of votes...ensuring Dem dominance for decades...

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Trump people! Did you give money to Trump? He needs money for his lawyers. Don't just squawk about Trump being persecuted by the Hunters, the Hillaries, the Michelle Obamas and the FBI ANTIFA BLM deep state. GIVE MONEY TO TRUMP. Talking about Trump without paying money to Trump does NOT help Trump. Only giving money to Trump helps Trump. It's about Trump. It's always been about Trump, it is about Trump now and it will always be about Trump. Give to Trump NOT to help the USA, but rather to help Trump and only Trump.

Trump started no wars.

WRONG. He sent Proud Boys to invade DC.

Hey Trump people: How come Judge Cannon (a Trump judge) hasn't dropped the charges and set Trump free?

Dems denying the 2016 election as legitimate

So? it's not a crime

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Strangerland, no

To quote....

Every person is equal before the law and is entitled to the equal protection of the law without discrimination.

We are and should be held accountable including Donald Trump.

I sometimes wonder that political partisan motivation may be a go to here.

Trump is the democrats political antichrist, a suited Beelzebub, with a suspicious comb over.

Trump is the culture war. The culture war is the base. Now what?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/16/trump-is-culture-war-culture-war-is-base-now-what/

I sometimes wonder, is US society mirroring the ongoing Democrat and Republican appetite for the toxicity in US politics.

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Look who his boss is.

His boss is Trump.

Yes, it did

No it didn't. Not in the real world.

Ok, you can believe that if you want, no problem with that.

Trump got 60 million votes, out of 360 million people. That's 1/6 the votes. Or are we supposed to believe your no numbers whatsoever? Do you think that you, as a believer that Trump won in 2020, therefore have enough credibility that simply claiming Trump won in 2020 wins in an argument over my providing actual numbers?

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DOJ only has maybe 1 distraction indictment left.

How come Judge Cannon has not dropped charges. She's a Trump judge. Also, Trump people on JT are asked to give Trump as much money as possible. Just posting about Trump on JT does not help Trump. Only money helps Trump. Please give money to Trump to help Trump. This is not about helping the USA. It's about saving Trump. the USA no longer matters. The only think that matters is Trump. It always has been about Trump. It is about Trump now, and it will always be about Trump. Trump and only Trump.

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Yes that’s how it happens, on this timing, every time.

Do you think non-partisans would get with your logic at face valuie, and think it makes you look intelligent?

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DOJ only has maybe 1 distraction indictment left.

Why do you think grand juries keep indicting at the DOJ's request? Is it a conspiracy? Are they all woke dems on the juries? Or are they paying the jurists? Or drugging them maybe? Or threatening their families?

Also, multiple grand juries are indicting Trump - do you think they are coordinating between the different trials? Or have they got multiple pronged influences, like splinter cells?

Please, enlighten us.

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Both Trump and Biden are not a desirable future for US politics.

However US democracy could and probably will demand that both face off again.

Where are the next generation of politicians?

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His boss is Trump.

Not anymore, but Garland is….

No it didn't. Not in the real world. 

Yes, it did, take the blinders off, but if not, I mean, you can’t vote anyway in the US so…..

Trump got 60 million votes, out of 360 million people. That's 1/6 the votes. Or are we supposed to believe your no numbers whatsoever?

He won the electoral college, again, we are a constitutional republic.

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Half the nation did not vote for Trump 

Half of the nation did though.

But they didn’t. It’s indisputable fact.

Believing so disqualifies you from any reasonable or logical discussion.

Take it to truth social, they’ll lap it up.

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The US constitution is beyond the reach of political intrigue.

Donald Trump was never going to put a dent into the US constitution.

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bass4funk

   Half the nation did not vote for Trump

> Half of the nation did though.

>    nor do half of the nation support Trump

An incorrect statement you have frequently posted.

FACT CHECK:

The population is 332 million. So according to you 166 million voted for and support Trump.

In 2020 220 million Americans were eligible to vote. According to you, 166 million voted for Trump, then that would leave 54 million who voted for Biden.

But we also know none of that is correct.

In 2020, out of the 220 million eligible voters, 155 million actually voted.

81 million for Biden. 74 million for Trump.

Your claim half of the nation supports Trump is

"pants on fire".

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What if he can’t get counsel because nobody will take his case and he has to use a Federal Public Defender?

”Dude won’t listen and doesn’t pay”

Well he’s still got Rudy, Sydney and the rest of the “Elite legal strike force”…

Oh, wait. They all lost their law licenses.

Maybe he can get someone who isn’t a licensed attorney, but who did sleep at a holiday inn express?

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The destruction of the Republican Party begun in 2016 is about to reach its conclusion...

Yes, dismantling the establishment was a great thing as well as getting rid of the swamp RINOs

Trump is facing four extremely serious criminal trials, with mountains of evidence and multiple former close associates turning against him...

Yeah, we keep hearing this and it boils down to nothing in the end, they might just dangle a way out, step aside, and don't run and we won't hound you and Trump will tell them to shove it as deep as possible.

He can't win the 2024 Repub nomination

Oh, he most definitely can.

And then when someone else is nominated,

If it ain't Ron, then it's Trump, now if Garland is THAT stupid enough to go after Biden's main political rival, he's setting writing the Democrat's obituary. Harry Reid did that and in the end, it cost the Dems the Supreme Court.

The MAGA base will then revolt and refuse to support the Repub nominee....

Not just us MAGA, but more and more people are tiring of the Dems dirty weaponization of the FEDS

And with that the Repub party will collapse,

In the Senate, we hope to definitely replace the RINOs

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The destruction of the Republican Party begun in 2016 is about to reach its conclusion...

Yes, dismantling the establishment was a great thing as well as getting rid of the swamp RINOs

Indeed - civil war, only neither side will emerge victorious - just defeated...

Trump is facing four extremely serious criminal trials, with mountains of evidence and multiple former close associates turning against him...

Yeah, we keep hearing this and it boils down to nothing in the end, they might just dangle a way out, step aside, and don't run and we won't hound you and Trump will tell them to shove it as deep as possible.

Is Rudy a turncoat or a hero?

He can't win the 2024 Repub nomination

Oh, he most definitely can.

MAGA-delusion...better stock up on hankies...

And then when someone else is nominated,

If it ain't Ron, then it's Trump, now if Garland is THAT stupid enough to go after Biden's main political rival, he's setting writing the Democrat's obituary. Harry Reid did that and in the end, it cost the Dems the Supreme Court.

So its either the "RINO groomer" or the "amnesty supporting Fauci-lover".... If you say so....

The MAGA base will then revolt and refuse to support the Repub nominee....

Not just us MAGA, but more and more people are tiring of the Dems dirty weaponization of the FEDS

Thanks for admitting it - MAGA-world will turn on the Repub Party if Trump doesn't win...signing its death warrant...

And with that the Repub party will collapse,

In the Senate, we hope to definitely replace the RINOs

By splitting the party in two, you just guaranteed a Dem WH, House, and Senate... Thanks...

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Some day, and that day is not near - but it is coming, everyone is going to have to come down on where they were during an attempt to overthrow democracy in favor of a term for authoritarian dictatorship that starts with the letter F.

There are going to be a fair few modern iterations of the Occupation French trying to deny they ever were members, willing members of a cult.

Unlike the collaborators, we have the internet and comments are forever.

Sorry Trump supporters: You’re not washing this filth away.

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Interesting how a few Democrats and this administration think they can convince us otherwise as if people can't see for themselves whether they like Trump or not.

People can see for themselves that there is a conspiracy? Why isn't it in the media then? Why isn't Fox exposing the messages that are forcing the grand jury to recommend charges even though there is no evidence? Is it an even bigger conspiracy? Is someone holding down Fox News even? Gasp... is it... the Deep State?!!!!

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Readers, please don't become obsessed with this story. Once you've made your point, please move on to other topics.

An orange jumpsuit would go well with Trump’s complexion.

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bass4fuk

you have frequently posted that you don't accept polls.

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An orange jumpsuit would go well with Trump’s complexion

“Orange is the new orange” coming soon to a tv screen near you!

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His boss is Trump.

Not anymore, but Garland is….

Hmmm....

So after saying that Durham was a true patriot and hero...

And that he would win multiple convictions and put hundreds of Dems behind bars....

And that he would lead an earthquake in DC....

You now say he caved and cowardly bowed to Garland?

Wow, that's a MAGA-Mega-flip....

Looks like you now think Durham is just like Giuliani - a traitor...

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Trump thinks and does things like a crime boss, so he gets investigated and investigated often. His followers are similar to any lemming followers in history of a dictatorial type leader. It's someone they want to see in themselves, and unfortunately, like him, many are so untrue to themselves, they have no idea how to distinguish truth from lies.

A problem with a ton of information and the internet access to getting as much information as desired is that half of the people get overwhelmed and intimated by educating themselves, so their weakness manifests itself in lies or multiple truths. Like Trump.

It does speak to the weakness of humanity, in general. But those without the ability and awareness never want to find truths. They're overwhelmed and the narrative of Trump and lies is an easier way. Take the low road, and lie, it's better for them.

Trump is a cancer and he's feeding his cult, continuously by being in the news, good or mostly bad. Nothing stands in the way of their lies leading to false narrative, and it's a waste of time bantering with these people as it isn't discourse when a debate isn't based on a common truth.

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Jack Smith isn't bambi...Jack Smith is a seasoned prosecutor - indictments he may bring and legally based - not political window dressing - this is serious - or Smith himself would not bring indictments. This is not about politics - this is about the law - something a president swears an oath to uphold and defend.

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“Orange is the new orange” coming soon to a tv screen near you!

That was pretty funny!

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