Ukraine keeps up pressure following Russian declaration of victory in Bakhmut

Oh it’s a counteroffensive now not a Spring Offensive.

Saw a Ky News UK report last night and first time they said any offensive may not work etc

The leaders or their representatives need to sit down and talk and sort this out before things gets worse

Summer offensive,Fall offensive,Winter Offensive, their all counterfeit offensive (Taiwan)

Odd that Russia is using elite airborne troops for a job normally done by regular light infantry. It must be demoralizing for them to play second fiddle to a group of convicts-turned-mercenaries whose leader is constantly and very publicly criticizing them for their lack of competence and dedication.

Putin is the dog that caught the car.

In case there is any real doubt as to who the Nazis are here:

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1665234355977875456

Host Olga Skabeeva said Russia needs the final solution of the Ukrainian question and proposed "destroying every living thing" in the Kharkiv region.

Surely our pro-Russian and 'neutral' posters can at least disavow this statement, yeah?

The leaders or their representatives need to sit down and talk and sort this out before things gets worse

That sounds great. The only problem is the Russian government does not respect the right of Ukraine to exist as a free and independent country.

Cards fan

Shame that most rational people wouldn’t even care if it wasn’t for the biased media about this. Before the conflict Ukraine was being bashed for its human rights abuses etc. Zelensky was getting grief for his tax evasion and having an inner circle comprising of his mates, like Hitler did

There can be zero comparisons between Zelenskyy and Hitler.

wallace

Why not, they both have inner circles made up of their friends who have no experience in the jobs given to them.

Shame that most rational people wouldn’t even care if it wasn’t for the biased media about this. Before the conflict Ukraine was being bashed for its human rights abuses etc.

What's that got to do with the fact that Russia doesn't respect Ukrainian right to self rule?

having an inner circle comprising of his mates, like Hitler did

Good point, FFS. Zelensky also wore pants like Hitler did. Suspicious, huh?

cards Fan

Also both a human, can you refute my factual point?

Also both a human, can you refute my factual point?

I don't know if it's true or not, and frankly it doesn't matter. If Zelensky does indeed "surround himself" with friends (cronies), this is hardly unique to him. And I don't think that justifies invading Ukraine. Do you?

Cards Fan

i see, one rule for one and one rule for another, enough said

Falseflagsteve: Before the conflict Ukraine was being bashed for its human rights abuses

Sure, but both sides should sit down and come to an agreement. And maybe the human rights victims are giving jobs to family members. Let's not forget about that.

Cards Fans

The things I mention happens before the war, all available to see online from reputable news sources like The Guardian.

Suoerlib

I don’t want to see any war, I find it abhorrent in this day and age.

There are still people who think Russia invaded for humanitarian reasons. That’s funny.

Randy Johnson: Somebody is making loads of money off of this. Care to guess who?

This old retread. Yawn.

The things I mention happens before the war, all available to see online from reputable news sources like The Guardian.

Nope, none of the justifies invading. None of that justifies doing nothing.

falseflagsteve,

I must assume you are either confused or don't know that much about history. Comparing President Zelesnkyy (mind the title) with Adolf got no base at all. Concerning the confusion: PUTAin is the one acting like Adolf, destroying, occupying, looting, killing, deporting, raping with his hordes what doesn't belong to him. And I seriously hope that PUTAin will face the same destiny.

Ukraine prevails!

Slava Ukraini!

How many of you remember peace before putins attack on innocent people of Ukraine?

Sadly thinking they know everything yet know nothing. Just as long as their bunkideology is promoted

Maybe they should watch Louder with Crowder to get educated ?

4 people dislike irony/or to get facts?/

action reaction.

bear may wake up and will respond accordingly.

you will get what you wanted.

Yes it's so amazing. Probably because it's not true. Good effort though.

Amazing that the US which is trillions of dollars in debt has given approximately a trillion dollars to ukraine in an obvious losing effort.

No breakout = the battle of Bakhmut ain't over.

The reason Ukrainain will not be successful,is they are being enabled,and cannot make decisions on their own,you see how they blame their allies,for their insecure decisions making based on not having the right, equipment for this counterfeit offensive

Yrral - So is it still going to be over by July 4 as you have predicted multiple times?

bear may wake up and will respond accordingly.

If it didn't wake up after being wounded so bad in Bakhmut, we might have to ask if it is still alive or not. Perhaps it is just the mangy beast facts would indicate it is.

It's going to be over one day and the only thing left will be the War Crimes...

July 4,will be 3 month until the frost start to form in Kiev

The title is interesting. It shows how the western media has become a mere mouthpiece for the Ukrainian SBU. Literally everyone on the planet knows that Bakhmut has fallen, but we're not allowed to say it. 'Bakhmut Holds!', says the Ukrainian government, and even though the western media can't quite bring themselves to repeat such nonsense, they hide in meal-mouthed equivocations, such as 'Russia claims...' or 'the alleged fall of Bakhmut'. It's all getting very tiresome.

Literally everyone on the planet knows that Bakhmut has fallen, but we're not allowed to say it.

Bakhmut fell. What do you mean we are 'not allowed to say it'?

You chose your words poorly. You're supposed to hedge it with 'Russia claims...'

LD - why would I do that? Bakhmut fell weeks ago. I don't think anyone doubts this.

Lord DartmouthToday 09:56 am JST

The title is interesting. It shows how the western media has become a mere mouthpiece for the Ukrainian SBU. Literally everyone on the planet knows that Bakhmut has fallen, but we're not allowed to say it. 'Bakhmut Holds!', says the Ukrainian government, and even though the western media can't quite bring themselves to repeat such nonsense, they hide in meal-mouthed equivocations, such as 'Russia claims...' or 'the alleged fall of Bakhmut'. It's all getting very tiresome.

I bet Hitler claimed Stalingrad fell several times, too. It ain't over til its over (i.e. breakout).

Yeah Ukraine advanced a whole 400 meters this time.

The Russians had better get themselves right with their deity and pray for mercy.

They won't be getting any from the UA.

What's more interesting is that Wagner boss now claims that Ukraine may have retaken positions in SW Bakhmut.

*Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed on June 4 that Ukrainian forces may have regained positions in southwestern Bakhmut, supporting repeated Ukrainian reports that the Ukrainian forces maintain positions on the southwestern outskirts of the city**. (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-4-2023)*

The title is interesting. It shows how the western media has become a mere mouthpiece for the Ukrainian SBU. Literally everyone on the planet knows that Bakhmut has fallen, but we're not allowed to say it. 'Bakhmut Holds!', says the Ukrainian government, and even though the western media can't quite bring themselves to repeat such nonsense, they hide in meal-mouthed equivocations, such as 'Russia claims...' or 'the alleged fall of Bakhmut'. It's all getting very tiresome.

Ukraine is done! Russia won! NATO and the US has for many years been proposed a security treaty not to move NATOS’s border next to Russia but the US and NATO didn’t heed Russia’s warning and repudiated Russia’s request for a security treaty. They have been warned by Russia and the blame is on them.

Russia has larger problems with civil war raging inside Russian borderlands, and with Russian forces bombarding their own cities and towns there with high explosives and phosphorus munitions.

Bakhmut is just a small distraction in comparison.

400 meter advance in a week over unguarded area and Russia fully controls 20,000 square meters?

how long is this gonna take?

Blacklabel Today  10:17 am JST

Yeah Ukraine advanced a whole 400 meters this time.

You seem to not understand the terms “invaders” and “defenders”.

Russia are the “invaders”, invaders are supposed to move forward not be stopped, much less pushed back, by the defenders. And I note that you said “… this time” indicating you acknowledge that Ukraine has pushed the invaders back on numerous occasions. Doesn’t say much for Russia’s failed “invasion” now dies it. It would be best for Putin to acknowledge the failure, cut his losses, and go home.