lincolnman comments

So far I count 9 of the 19 individuals indicted were lawyers...quickly putting to truth the old saying that MAGA stands for "Making Attorneys Get Attorneys"....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-look-at-the-19-people-charged-in-georgia-indictment-connected-to-trump-election-scheme/ar-AA1fhC9z?cvid=94dba3f456804eaaa258a4603f9f68b9&ei=5

The whole stinking situation at the Coffee County elections office will be key - MAGA-supporting election officials giving access to the ballot area and access to the actual voting machines to pro-MAGA operatives who were to place fake evidence of fraud on the machines will shock most Americans. And they have texts and e-mails tying Trump and the White House to this crime.

If Bill Barr thought Trump was "toast" because of his classified stash and steal, he must think he's burning embers now...

This case perfectly highlights the conundrum the Repubs are in - one clearly of their own making...

Basically 60% of Repubs, maybe 25-30% of the general electorate, are hard-core MAGA-faithful... They are only-Trump...and will rebel and refuse to vote in 2024 if Trump is not the nominee. That means if Repub leadership turns on Trump because of these indictments, then the MAGA-faithful will stay at home on voting day and Repubs up and down the ballot will get thrashed by a clear Dem majority...

What's the alternative? Throw in with Trump even though he will face conviction in at least three of his four indictments, to include this one announced today where there are texts/e-mails that show he tried to plant fake evidence of fraud on voting machines, which will clearly repel and disgust everyone other than the MAGA-faithful...

What will the Repub leadership do? Well, if their conduct after Jan 6th shows us anything, it's that there will be a loud outcry after the convictions are handed down, then a flip-flop as time goes on...

My guess is they'll ride the Trump MAGA-train as it takes the party down in flames...

August may be a rather prophetic month for Republican Presidents...

In Aug 1974, Nixon resigned his Presidency after he was caught on tape approving of and then trying to cover-up the break-in at Democratic HQs at Watergate....

In Aug 2023, we are learning through texts and e-mails that Trump approved of or directed the planting of fake evidence of fraud on Georgia voting machines and then cover it up...

In 1974, Republican Senators had the courage and devotion to the Constitution to tell Nixon he had to resign....

In 2023, do the current Republican Senators have this same courage and conviction to tell Trump he has to resign from running again?

I don't know....but I hope so...

Media accounts showed images of a cover sheet saying the grand jury had returned 10 indictments, but did not say who was indicted or what charges were filed.

My goodness, TEN indictments....that's Trump and nine of his cronies...

And we all know how this will go - we already have "MAGA-heroes" turning on one another in an attempt to be the first in line to get a "deal to squeal"...

Rudy Giuliani, who tied himself to Sidney Powell for the last two years, is now coming out today and saying her fraud claims are "crackpot ideas"....

https://people.com/rudy-giuliani-lawyer-places-2020-blame-sidney-powell-7643252

And this may be the most "slam-dunk" case of the four he is facing. I thought the "smoking guns" of his boasting on tape of his classified war-plan that he couldn't declassify or his lawyer's certified letter saying no more classified at MAL and then the FBI finds 184 more was bad...

But if they have texts and emails from the White House approving a plan to PLANT FAKE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD on Georgia voting machines, then it's game over...

The MAGA-rats will all be turning on one another to try to save themselves - to include the head rat...

Planting fake evidence is serious stuff - and to frame it as a conspiracy under the RICO Act will have all these "MAGA-heroes" begging Willis to give them a deal...lest they sit the rest of their lives out in a cell at Leavenworth...

Rudy Giuliani - MAGA hero?

He admitted under oath TWO YEARS AGO in a court hearing on election fraud that "this is not a fraud case"....

The Repub Arizona Chairmen testified under oath to the Jan 6th committee that when asked about election fraud, Rudy replied "we just don't have any evidence"....

Rudy VOLUNTEERED to meet with Jack Smith and provided a "proffer" of areas he would testify to if offered immunity from prosecution...

Rudy admitted under oath last month that his two years of ranting about election fraud by two Georgia poll workers were "false"...

Now he has his lawyer come out and say that the election fraud claims he cheered for two years about are just Sidney Powell's "crackpot ideas"....

So MAGA-friends, are the election fraud claims "crackpot ideas" as Rudy says? is Rudy a "rat" or still a "MAGA-hero"?

Because I never said, nor eluded to being one.

And you may want to break open the dictionary on the definition of "eluded" vs alluded"....

As almost everyone here expected when the six indicted co-conspirators were named, they are now all turning on one another in a desperate bid to avoid a jail cell....

Rolling Stone points to two of the men widely believed to be co-conspirators — attorneys Giuliani and Kenneth Chesebro — whom the outlet says have begun to deflect blame and openly criticize other alleged co-conspirators, such as attorney Sidney Powell.

Giuliani spent months hosting press conferences and appearing on television and in courtrooms to contest the results of the election. But while many of those appearances were often alongside Powell, he is now projecting an air of distance between the two.

*Speaking to CNN about an alleged plot to breach voting systems in Coffee County, Georgia, Costello claimed, *“Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with this,” adding: "You can’t attach Rudy Giuliani to Sidney Powell’s crackpot idea.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rudy-giuliani-one-trump-jan-215244796.html

So the fraud claims that Rudy preached as gospel for 2 years is now suddenly a "crackpot idea".... Well that is at least consistent with his recent under oath admission that his previous fraud claims against the Georgia poll workers were "false"...i.e., all lies....

Face it Trump supporters - MAGA-world is crumbling into pieces as Trump crony after Trump crony tries to save themselves by turning on and "ratting" out their fellow "buddies" and even Trump himself...which he , in turn, will do to them...

These upcoming court hearings will have the MAGA cesspool on full display....

The Putin-boosters here can re-post Kremlin Potemkin Village fairy tales all they want...

But they sure won't mention that the ruble is now worth less than one penny...

The ruble crashed through the psychological support of 100 to the U.S. dollar and on Monday is now worth less than a penny, the first time since March 23 of last year.

“They’re laughing at us,” scathed Vladimir Solovyov, Russia’s most well-known state TV personality and a chief Putin ally, already last week.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russian-ruble-now-worth-less-140326750.html

His ships are being sunk in the Black Sea, his beloved bridge to Crimea gets new holes every day, his private Army mutinies and matches on Moscow, and now his main currency is worth less than a penny...

Sure, Putin's war is going swell for him...

And the smoking guns just keep coming....

*Atlanta District Attorney Fani Willis and her team of prosecutors have text messages that connect some of former President Donald Trump’s legal team to a voting system breach in a rural Georgia. Texts and emails obtained by prosecutors suggest the early 2021 breach in Coffee County—in which people attempted to access voting machines to create evidence of voter fraud—*was led by members of Trump’s team, rather than local Trump supporters acting alone.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/08/13/georgia-prosecutors-have-texts-linking-trump-allies-to-voting-system-breach-report-says-as-possible-charges-loom/?sh=1b04f74d5cae

Get that? The Prosecutor has evidence of Trump and his team deliberately planting fake evidence of fraud to conspire to steal the election.

So who provided those texts and e-mails? Mark Meadows? Rudy Giuliani? Jared Kushner?

Who do our MAGA-friends here think has "turned traitor" and "ratted out the Orange Guy"? Will they take the stand to coroberate their already incriminating e-mails?

If they have Trump dead to rights on planting evidence, this case may turn out to be the strongest of three already very strong indictments...

Bye-Don, Hello Leavenworth...

Every time the CCP opens its big mouth it just shows what hypocrites they are...

Each day we hear some Chinese spokesperson ranting about the West "interfering in China's internal affairs"....

Yet when the US invites a foreign guest for an internal US visit, they flip and wet their pants...

Go buy a big fuzzy Winnie the Pooh doll at Disneyland VP Lai - and send it COD to Xi as a present when you get back...

Expect more military provocations towards Taiwan and the Philippines as Xi and the CCP try to deflect from China's cratering economy...

Faux nationalism is the tired and true card that authoritarians play when everything else around them is crumbling...

There's a fundamental weakness and insecurity about a regime that is so afraid of a cartoon character like Winnie the Pooh that it outlaws it...

Don't believe a word that comes out of Putin's Potemkin Village disinformation factory...

Why are you ordering what to do?

I'm offering an opinion which I'm free to do here - unlike Russia where if your daughter draws "an anti-art picture", you are carted off to the gulag...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-father-whose-daughter-drew-anti-war-picture-given-two-years-jail-2023-03-28/

Adequate people will figure out whether to believe them or not.

Adequate people might - rational, smart people see through the lies..

You'd better tell them how things are going in the Kupyansk

Why, is the Kremlin now saying the Moskva is sailing around there?

Russia thwarted an attack by 20 Ukrainian drones targeting Moscow-annexed Crimea overnight, the Russian Defense Ministry said Saturday.

Fourteen drones were shot down by Russian air defenses and a further six were jammed electronically, the ministry said in a Telegram post. No casualties or damage were reported. Kyiv officials neither confirmed nor denied Ukraine’s involvement in the attacks.

Sure....and the Moskva is still sailing around the Black Sea....

Nothing but pure Kremlin fantasy - even the Russian people laugh at it...

Don't believe a word that comes out of Putin's Potemkin Village disinformation factory...

Tuesday, US election, November 5, 2024 is rapidly descending into a politically poisonous toxic cesspool.

Thanks to the feckless Repubs who demand to nominate by then a convicted felon...

Trump, the overwhelming front-runner in the crowded Republican presidential nomination fight, used the opportunity to put his likely general election opponent on the defensive, referring to the “Biden crime family” and the “Biden cartel.”

Yet look at all the Trump allies who have turned on him and are cooperating with the Special Counsel to put him behind bars....sounds a lot like John Gotti....

Biden is politically exposed thanks to his feckless son Hunter.

With what evidence - testimony from a Chinese agent? ROFL...

No matter how much Biden distances his campaign from the media circus that will follow, hapless Hunter failings will stick to the President like superglue.

Indictments and convictions stick even harder...

Donald Trump has already hinted at a possible campaign strategy march, ‘I am your retribution’ framing the 2024 election as “the final battle” for America.

Indeed - more violent rhetoric - which results in this...

https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/man-killed-during-fbi-raid-linked-to-threats-against-biden/

And then the spectacle of Donald Trump a political prisoner jailed simply for his 1st amendment right to free speech.

Drafting fake elector lists and storing Top Secret in your bathroom are actions/crimes, not free speech...

Trumps team will milk this for all its worth.

Trump's team are lining up outside Jack Smith's office all willing to squeal for a deal...

What a great comparison between the Trump and Biden administrations...

Anyone here believe Trump would appoint a Special Counsel to investigate Eric's claim that the Trump Org "gets all the money we need out of Russia" or Ivanka's "fast-tracked" 16 Chinese trademarks while serving as Special Advisor? Or maybe Jared's $2 billion Saudi investment?

The American public have already seen "Benghazi" - they won't be fooled again...

Especially by a group of losers that use a Chinese agent as their main witness....ROFL..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/10/us-charges-fugitive-energy-analyst-with-being-agent-of-china-arms-trafficker/70400324007/

It needs to be televised so people can see the real Donald Trump...

The guy that rants, screams, and lies on TV and social media where he knows he can say anything...

Suddenly changes into a little mouse when before a judge and under oath...

I can't wait to see Giuliani on the stand trying to explain all his "it was rigged" speeches when he said under oath that "this is not a fraud case", admitted in court that his charges of fraud in Georgia were "false", and told the Arizona Repub Speaker that "we just don't have any evidence"...

Televise it so we can see Trump frog-marched out to jail when he loses...a fitting end to the MAGA-delusion...

"If the Trump trial is not televised, the public will learn about the events through the extremely biased reporting of today’s media," he wrote in The Hill.

"It will be as if there were two trials: one observed by reporters for MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times and other liberal media, the other through the prism of reporters for Fox, Newsmax and other conservative outlets.

Well, that's until we see all the private e-mails from all the Fox talking heads showing how much they lie while on-air... You know, like we saw before;

1) They "hate him (Trump) passionately"...

2)Trump's fraud claims were "complete BS", "really crazy stuff", and "mind-blowingly nuts"...

3) "Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy [Giuliani]," 

Of course, they then went on the air and said the complete opposite - showing again MAGA-world is where the REAL fraud and grift is...

A perfect example of why Ukraine is winning this war...

Putin gets angry and humiliated at his losses and attacks schools, shopping malls, and churches...

Zelensky targets key war-supporting infrastructure like bridges, logistics warehouses, and military factories...

It's just a matter of time before Putin is forced to admit defeat...

Our daily dose of far-right hypocrisy....

No, bank statements don’t lie.

More like Trump's hidden Chinese bank account...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html

They baselessly claim Joe and Hunter go easy on China because they have corrupt business ties - all a fantasy provided by a Chinese agent who played them for suckers...

Not according to former business partners bank records and audio recordings.

Thoroughly debunked - they got played by a Chinese agent - how humiliating...

They flip and flop every day - giving the rest of us all a good belly laugh....

Not to the nation.

What?

And they all go silent when you mention the decades-long millions Trump has given the CCP in clothing contracts or Ivanka's very suspicious "18 Chinese trademarks"....

She was VP before or President??

Was she a government employee and member of Trump's inner circle?

Why did she get 18 fast-tracked Chinese trademarks in 2018 when she was serving as his "special" advisor?

I*n October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. *The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.

China also granted provisional approval for two “Trump” trademarks to DTTM Operations LLC, headquartered at Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York. They cover branded restaurant, bar and hotel services, as well as clothing and shoes.

https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727

Voting machines? Chinese trademarks? Explain that one...

the US has certainly created more political, economic and even proxy enemies than we can handle by now within the competence of the current people in charge.

Our daily dose of far-right hypocrisy....

They baselessly claim Joe and Hunter go easy on China because they have corrupt business ties - all a fantasy provided by a Chinese agent who played them for suckers...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/gop-house-informant-indicted-allegations-was-agent-china-rcna93633

And then when Biden gets tough on China they blast him for "creating enemies"....

They flip and flop every day - giving the rest of us all a good belly laugh....

And they all go silent when you mention the decades-long millions Trump has given the CCP in clothing contracts or Ivanka's very suspicious "18 Chinese trademarks"....

https://www.voanews.com/a/china-grants-18-trademarks-in-2-months-to-trump-daughter-ivanka/4648146.html

Hypocrisy - thy name is MAGA-world....

“Of course he lost,” DeSantis said an interview with NBC News posted Monday. “Joe Biden's the president.”

RINO Ron just appears to be agreeing with what the rest of Trump's team has already said...HE LOST....

His own handpicked AG Bill Barr: "Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election."

His own handpicked attorney Rudy Giuliani: "Defendant Giuliani, for the purposes of litigation only, does not contest that, to the extent the statements were statements of fact and other wise actionable, such actionable factual statements were false,”

His favorite Fox News talking head: "I did not believe it for one second," Hannity testified, in the Colorado-based Dominion Voting Systems trial when asked about Trump's fraudulent elections claims...

Even Trump himself: Trump admitted he lost to Biden: *Alyssa Farah Griffin, the former White House director of strategic communications, said on CNN's "State of the Union" that Trump "watching Joe Biden on TV said, 'Can you believe I lost to this guy?'

Don't know why the MAGA-faithful here are so mad at Ron - he's just agreeing with your MAGA-heroes...

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis said definitively that rival Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, an acknowledgement the Florida governor made after years of equivocating answers.

“Of course he lost,” DeSantis said an interview with NBC News posted Monday. “Joe Biden's the president.”

And with that, RINO Ron goes from "rockstar" to "rat"....

In the MAGA-cult, belief in the Big Lie is sacrosanct...not because it's true, but because it is the fundamental basis for the continuing grift....

Trump knows this - it's why he has $80 million to pay his gaggle of bungling lawyers...it all came from the suckers that thought they were donating to his campaign...the small change left over goes to Melania's fashion coordinator...

He's not running for President, he's running to hustle and scam the MAGA-masses of every penny they own in a failed attempt to keep out of a cell...

Proving once again that in MAGA-world, there's one born every minute...

Amazing how bad Trump is at picking lawyers....

He picks Giuliani who besides admitting three times (twice under oath) that "we have no evidence of fraud", when asked in an interview if he (and Trump) used military aid to squeeze Zelensky to investigate Hunter said "of course I did"....

He picks Evan Corcoran who takes copious notes and was found to have conspired with Trump in his classified steal and stash and all those notes are now in the hands of Jack Smith...

He now picks this guy John Lauro who goes on multiple TV shows and openly lies about Trump "suggesting a pause" when Pence, Meadows, Giuliani, Kushner, Corcoran's notes, and other "turncoats" have all said Trump demanded Pence throw out the electors and let the states replace them with their fake lists....

Besides being incompetent, they also have in common they're all being paid by money sent by the MAGA-faithful to Trump campaign PAC, then siphoned off to pay his lawyers...

MAGA-world is a cesspool of kooks, crooks, and "rats"....all now turning on one another...

The result? Bye-Don, Hello Leavenworth...

And guilty...

Of what?

Ask Giuliani - he's the one that issued the "proffer" saying he'd cooperate with Smith...

Ask Meadows - he's the one that gave Smith all his emails...

Ask Jared - he's the one that voluntarily agreed to an interview...

And flipping....

Burgers? That’s what Garland will do by the end of next year

On this thread; Bass: "I made a mistake". Bass: "I never did"....

Your conservative icon...not much of a conservative if you don't know her....

You can think whatever you like, we all have our difference of opinions.

Guess you know her now....ROFL...

When they're guilty....

With the gun to your head

And guilty...

Then said: "I never did"....

Keep flipping and digging...

And correcting

And flipping....

Our MAGA-friends here love Ann Coulter - she's a conservative icon and hero....

Who?

Your conservative icon...not much of a conservative if you don't know her....

Hmmmm......

Like I said, nonsense.

You can call it whatever you want, everyone else that read the link would call it "cooperating"....

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-trump-campaign-official-joins-giuliani-in-signing-proffer-deal-report-says

MAGA-surrender....

Not our style, we’re not Democrats.

Nonsense....

Thanks for confirming that they're "rats"

That’s the Dems mantra

What?

cooperating with "deranged" Jack Smith to backstab Trump....and you still think they're "heroes"...

When the cops put a gun to your head….

Like you said, they're cooperating with Smith sticking a knife in Trump's back....

Thanks for admitting you were wrong

I never did, keep trying

You made an error?

*Bass: Yes, we are all human, it happens.*

Gotcha....keep flipping....ROFL...

It most definitely will...

No, and the Dems know it won’t. But we get it, sensationalism sells.

Evidence convicts...especially when provided by Meadows, Giuliani, Kushner, Septien, et.al. ROFL...

I'm sure Joe and Team Blue appreciates your view he has "increased" cognitive abilities...

Decreased, decreased..

But you said increased....

Bass: "We all know his cognitive abilities have greatly increased"....

Thanks again for the compliment...

It most definitely will...

No, and the Dems know it won’t. But we get it, sensationalism sells.

Evidence convicts....ROFL...

I'm sure Joe and Team Blue appreciates your view he has "increased" cognitive abilities...

Decreased, decreased..

Jail is not going to be the factor for Biden’s political opponent,

It most definitely will...

We all know his cognitive abilities have greatly increased

Well thanks for the compliment - I'm sure Joe and Team Blue appreciates your view he has "increased" cognitive abilities...certainly better than his main opponent who abilities have clearly regressed....

Entitled leftist kids expecting “free stuff”.

What? These were just a bunch of peaceful "tourists" enjoying another day in NYC...

If there was any violence then it was do purely to far-right "instigators" who infiltrated into the group...

One I believe was named Roy Oops...a known far-right reactionary...

Age? When your opponent is facing four criminal indictments with over 100 charges that could result on over 80 years of confinement...

Think "jail"....not "age"...