Woman charged with murder of infant she left in vacant lot in Tochigi Prefecture

Another fantastic parent for the gallows. No mercy for child murderers

Baby hatches in all hospitals please

ChabbawangaToday  06:48 am JST

Another fantastic parent for the gallows. No mercy for child murderers

Get serious. You know that's not going to happen.

I want to know how someone could somehow be raised to feel so little empathy, compassion or nurturing instincts that their first reaction to seeing their own newborn is to kill it. I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support. I don't know if it's ignorance or indifference, but as there have been a lot of these appalling stories whatever it is seems to be pretty deeply ingrained into the culture here. Understand the problem and start to do something about it so other babies are protected before blabbering on about "gallows."

Life is cheap in Japan, especially for infants.

 I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support.

Probably too busy messing about on their iphones, and pretending they have overtime.

I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support.

Someone willing to smash their own baby's head in will do so whether support was available or not.

ChabbawangaToday 06:48 am JST

Another fantastic parent for the gallows. No mercy for child murderers

What's the point of angry retribution? What does that do but sooth people's desire for vengeance?

Surely we are a more mature society than that Chabba?

How about looking further into how this and similar cases are happening in Japan. What are these women going through for them to reach this stage?

Good. I’m tired of the pity-party for these sick murderers. Now, give her 20 years, please. Not just 2 if anything.

RareReasonToday 08:58 am JST

I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support.

Someone willing to smash their own baby's head in will do so whether support was available or not.

Wild and unsubstantiated assumption Rare. Most murders are not premeditated and you have no experience of being a mother with a baby and what that feels like if you are mentally ill or in shock etc.

What's the point of angry retribution? What does that do but sooth people's desire for vengeance?

Do you have kids? This freak murdered their own child, the worst crime a human can commit.

ChabbawangaToday 09:43 am JST

What's the point of angry retribution? What does that do but sooth people's desire for vengeance?

Do you have kids? This freak murdered their own child, the worst crime a human can commit.

I have two small children, yes. Why do you ask?

Calling someone a 'freak' that you have never met and know nothing about. Murder is a horrible thing, but people who commit murder are not automatically evil and must be exterminated - unless you want the human race to devolve into an eye-for-an-eye mentality of the past.

So ugly, how did it get to that she thought this was the only thing she could do. So cold.

This woman should be sterialized, banned from adopting a child or children and banned from working with children and arrested to be imprisoned in a prison for as long as she lives.

Stephen ChinToday 09:56 am JST

This woman should be sterialized, banned from adopting a child or children and banned from working with children and arrested to be imprisoned in a prison for as long as she lives.

How about waiting for her psychological assessment and background first, hmm?

So many people want instant lynching as if they are bent on devolving humanity into a vigilante-style mob of bloodthirsty mindless minions. Calm your caveman instincts Steve. :)

ChabbawangaToday  08:56 am JST

 "I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support."

Probably too busy messing about on their iphones, and pretending they have overtime.

Which makes them a bit responsible, don't you think?

RareReasonToday  08:58 am JST

"I want to know how relatives, friends and healthcare professionals, not to mention the biological fathers, could all be oblivious to the killer's mental state and obvious need for support."

Someone willing to smash their own baby's head in will do so whether support was available or not.

Hrm. I take it that's your expert, professional opinion. So her partner, relatives and friends could have been doing all they could for her, and she would still have carried this baby to term intending all the while to murder him?

gogogoToday 09:50 am JST

So ugly, how did it get to that she thought this was the only thing she could do. So cold.

On the surface, from our very different perspective, that's how it looks.

We have to be open to the possibility that we don't know, and can never know, what it was like being her in that situation. All of us are capable of murder, so we shouldn't kid ourselves that it's just certain 'evil' people.

and arrested to be imprisoned in a prison for as long as she lives

What’s the point of doing any of the other stuff you mentioned before this bit then?

I don’t agree with the death penalty but this has seriously made me reconsider my opinion…..

GazmanToday 12:03 pm JST

I don’t agree with the death penalty but this has seriously made me reconsider my opinion…..

Why?

I feel hatred on the spot but wkthin seconfs one need to imagine a specific case for that to happen.

That woman may have been raped, not realized she was pregnant (I know some think it is impossible) and had no money to pay for abortion at the time. Then she may have expressed her anger on the baby representing all the pain she had accumulated after her ordeal.

Just one of many plausible scenario.

Understanding the root causes make you smart, not mean nor a murder lover.

By experience and after personal study, yes Japanese don't give life overall as much importance as Christians (and surely other cultural system) do. Killing your own family is seen as fate and an end of the same temper , hence same defaults in the blood line.

Jonathan PrinToday 12:57 pm JST

I feel hatred on the spot but wkthin seconfs one need to imagine a specific case for that to happen.

That woman may have been raped, not realized she was pregnant (I know some think it is impossible) and had no money to pay for abortion at the time. Then she may have expressed her anger on the baby representing all the pain she had accumulated after her ordeal.

Just one of many plausible scenario.

Understanding the root causes make you smart, not mean nor a murder lover.

By experience and after personal study, yes Japanese don't give life overall as much importance as Christians (and surely other cultural system) do. Killing your own family is seen as fate and an end of the same temper , hence same defaults in the blood line.

Yes.

Finally, a comment showing intelligence and maturity above that of a teenager (not saying it's wrong, just an observation). There are so many plausible scenarios. I expect she was a bit confused and shocked especially if she has not been p[regant before. Some young women do not even know they are pregnant until their waters break.

I'm not sure you can make a blanket statement about the Japanese not caring about life as much as Christian cultures. There is a lack of a charitable sense in the community like you tend to see in Christian-based cultures (most of these nations are no longer religious, mind you), but I think people are no less caring.

Being raped is not the babies fault, she should have baby hatched it, someone else would have loved that child.

More education around baby hatches are needed!

Calling someone a 'freak' that you have never met and know nothing about.

My bad. This person is completely rational.

> ChabbawangaToday 01:35 pm JST

Calling someone a 'freak' that you have never met and know nothing about.

My bad. This person is completely rational.

One extreme to the other. :)

Nothing in between? ;)

If this is what you are going to do upon birth then, it would be better in my books marginally to go with abortion before birth.

gogogoToday 01:10 pm JST

Being raped is not the babies fault, she should have baby hatched it, someone else would have loved that child.

More education around baby hatches are needed!

You are making the mistake that she is in a similar mental state is you sitting at your computer writing comments on a news forum.

You are effectively projecting your life experience and mental health state onto someone else and expecting them to think and behave like you would.

But then, I guess she is short on money… sad

The cost of an abortion is ¥100,000-¥200,000 depending on the hospital or clinic.

> wallaceToday 02:44 pm JST

The cost of an abortion is ¥100,000-¥200,000 depending on the hospital or clinic.

Yes, this is something I had to go through while in Japan. The parents kindly paid for half.

Still, is this the same topic as the news article?! I don't see the connection.

Japan is a paradox

    wallace

   The cost of an abortion is ¥100,000-¥200,000 depending on the hospital or clinic.

> Yes, this is something I had to go through while in Japan. The parents kindly paid for half.

> Still, is this the same topic as the news article?! I don't see the connection.

You had an abortion. What were the costs?

One poster suggested if she didn't want the child she could have had an abortion but also suggested maybe she could not afford it.

I am against late term abortions of any kind.

> wallaceToday 03:42 pm JST

Japan is a paradox

   wallace

   The cost of an abortion is ¥100,000-¥200,000 depending on the hospital or clinic.

Yes, this is something I had to go through while in Japan. The parents kindly paid for half.

Still, is this the same topic as the news article?! I don't see the connection.

> > You had an abortion. What were the costs?

¥100,000. It was my partner who had the abortion since I ma not physically capable of bearing a child given my particular gender.

One poster suggested if she didn't want the child she could have had an abortion but also suggested maybe she could not afford it.

I doubt she even knew she was pregnant until it started coming out. It's not unheard of.

Japan is a paradox

you can have an abortion up to 22 weeks.

We don't know any more than what is posted in the article.

> wallaceToday 04:11 pm JST

you can have an abortion up to 22 weeks.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time.

We don't know any more than what is posted in the article.

Indeed, we don't, but we can speculate, aye. :)

Stephen Chin

This woman should be sterialized, banned from adopting a child or children and banned from working with children and arrested to be imprisoned in a prison for as long as she lives.

If she was "imprisoned in a prison for as long as she lives", why would all that other stuff be necessary?

Kaowaiinekochanknaw

I am against late term abortions of any kind.

Luckily for you, voluntary abortions are only allowed up to 22 weeks in Japan.

Although, there are exceptions if the health or life of the mother is at stake. But, I'm sure you'd agree that saving the mother's life takes priority.

(Of course, I'm assuming you're a woman. If you're not, than your opinion on the matter is moot.)

> KaowaiinekochanknawToday 03:56 pm JST

I am against late term abortions of any kind.

Why are you?

Getting pregnant at 36 years old with no structure in place says a lot about this woman and her lifestyle choices

At 36, she had a chance at knowing the joy of being a mother.

Instead, she destroyed her son's newborn innocent life,

and left him in an empty lot like trash.

I find her actions repulsive.

> blue in greenToday 03:07 am JST

At 36, she had a chance at knowing the joy of being a mother.

Instead, she destroyed her son's newborn innocent life,

and left him in an empty lot like trash.

I find her actions repulsive.

Youa re judging someone from your own world view and life experience.

You have no idea what she had been through/was going through or her mental state.

Murderer, it seems everything was planned...

Poor little angel May you rest in peace in the hands of God

People here have no clue about psychology and/or biology, outside Japan is a paradox.

I gave a plausible (means possible for the ones who don't know...) example of case where a mother could have hatred for a child. Rape is traumatic if some did not know.

Here is an example of study (US but anyone can relate that to Japan) : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6357953/

And so some women can't or psyche doesn't accept being pregnant until too late or before water breaks, believe it or not. It is called pregnancy denial :

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Pregnancy-Denial.aspx

All this is objectively scientifically assessed.

So before judging, know what you are talking about when a life is at stake.

Never said or will ever say the outcome was satisfactory. It was so sad fot the poor baby.

she beat his head several times with her fists, and then took him to the vacant lot.

OMG!! WTF is wrong with her! Damn monster!